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    How is his channel going to be deleted? They appealed the take down and YouTube will reinstate the video in a matter of 10 days if Bloomberg failed to produce proof that he used their copy right shit. I’m actually genuinely asking because I watched the whole video and Steve didn’t say anything about their channel being deleted.

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      Bloomberg has 10 days to file for lawsuit against Gamers Nexus. If they do, the take down stands, and it’s a strike until Gamers Nexus may win the case. Which will be expensive. 3 strikes and YouTube closes the channel with near zero option for appeal.

      Gamers Nexus cannot manage if a big company like Bloomberg goes all in. They can easily bankrupt a small channel like Gamers Nexus with frivolous lawsuits. And if you are bankrupt, you can’t defend yourself.

      The US judicial system is heavily tilted towards those that have more money.

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        “small.”

        Make no mistake. Gamers Nexus is a multi million dollar company.

        Sure, Bloomberg is much, much bigger. But while gamers Nexus is the underdog, it’s not the toothless underdog. That little fucker will bite in bloomberg’s ankles before it dies and tbf: it looks like it’s already yapping and took it’s first bite.

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          That is true, but yes Gamers Nexus is (relatively) small, and a million dollars can be gone in no time, if a multi billion dollar company decides you need to be gone.
          1 million dollars is far from enough to run just a single somewhat high profile copyright lawsuit.

          This case is simple, so they will probably manage that pretty easily, there is basically no way Bloomberg can win. It’s just a typical harassment tactic that will work against by far the most smaller outlets. But Steve is smart, he knows bullshit when he sees it, and he is not easily scared.

          But if Bloomberg gets pissed enough, Gamers Nexus could soon be toast. Just like Gamers Nexus has friends more powerful than themselves, so does Bloomberg.

          And 3 frivolous take down notices can appear from various sources in no time. And to YouTube Gamers Nexus is definitely small fry.

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            Fortunately, New York has anti-SLAPP laws. In fact, they made them stronger when it comes to matters that touch free speech on public issues, which is what reporting something the president said would fall squarely under.

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        But it’s only one of 3 strikes.
        And I am sure it can even expire at some point.
        So what’s the matter?

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          Since YouTube also count frivolous claims, you can get 3 strikes in no time.
          How many take down claims have been put against them already? How many did they successfully resolve?
          IDK, and if you don’t either, you are making an argument from ignorance.

          But as I mentioned, there is basically no defense against 3 frivolous strikes. It will close the channel, no matter how much the channel can prove it’s innocence.
          Unless of course it’s a mega corp, they have different rules, because they are big and google makes money from them, and they have big lawyer teams.

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      3 dmca/copyright strikes on a channel and yt deletes you. It was mentioned near the beginning of the video.

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        Right but Bloomberg only did it once, right? Or are they talking about “in general”?

        Why is this being downvoted? I’m genuinely asking questions 😂.

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          You can easily get three strikes in a few moments with frivolous takedown. Then you are deleted and can only hope to beg youtube to reinstate you on twitter.

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            You can easily get three strikes in a few moments with frivolous takedown

            So what you’re basically saying is that any YouTube channel since the dawn of the DMCA has been permanently in the status of “Our Channel Could Be Deleted”. That’s… not exactly news is it? What makes the GamersNexus case special?

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            That’s fucking insane. I can only imagine how scary it is for those who make YouTube their full-time job. :/

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              Play in someone else’s walled garden, and they may kick you out and not let you back in. It’s not as if people haven’t been warning against this since the beginning of youtube.

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            It’s not clickbait. The 3 strikes is general, so even if Bloomberg comes back and says it was an accident or unsubstantiated, gn still takes the hit and is that much closer to being deleted. They could very easily make another 2 or cause a lot more issues leading to the deletion of his account. An considering they don’t want to talk to him at all, and even making this video will likely really piss them off, it absolutely does lead to the possibility that he has his account deleted

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              It’s not clickbait. The 3 strikes is general, so even if Bloomberg comes back and says it was an accident or unsubstantiated, gn still takes the hit and is that much closer to being deleted

              That’s not true. It has to be 3 strikes with merit, so rejected or reverted ones don’t count, and they expire after 90 days too.

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                Ah I didn’t know that, so I appreciate the correction. In that case itsa little more click baity… But still good to know if you follow his channel. Thank you!

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      I would assume its in reference to the section of the video quoting YouTube’s policies that channels can be removed after 3 copyright strikes. Bloomberg has 10 days to appeal to YouTube and keep the strike active

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      I sympathize with Steve and how he is, and how he goes about explaining things. And the style of making sharp points.

      But he’s also flawed, and knows how to play the content game. This is nearly just clickbait. And they flew across the country in service of his style of rhetoric.

      I honestly wish more people with audiences were just as pedantic and critical as he is. But he also has his own set of biases in the computer landscape. He is still a Gamer after all.

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        I don’t think it’s clickbait at all. He’s in real danger of being silenced. With this latest project he reached into a massive wasp nest for sure, but I admire his efforts to speak up in cases like this.

        And I haven’t found any bias in his content in general. He’s pretty transparent about his methodologies.

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          He has a huge bias against Macs. I suspect you won’t be receptive to that idea.

          There’s a general sense of consoles and other devices being beneath the channel. Little comments often surface during news segments that touch on them. It’s not that they don’t acknowledge them.

          And with how shitty Microsoft is, you’d think they would be more even handed about the whole thing.

          But this is filtered though my sensitive ears because I came up with Mac gaming and console gaming, and I’m sensitive to when people are dismissive of other options. The same thing use to happen to Linux until the Steam Deck and associated software support from valve forced people out of treating all Linux gaming as an afterthought.

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          Title is clickbait, because a sentence like that without context is alarmist.

          It’s not wrong, it’s mentioned and explained in the video, byt it’s still clickbait.

          The story here is Bloomberg fuckery and the copyright strike, not the imminent channel deletion.

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            without context? context is in the video. or do you want titles that span 4 lines with 3 sentences?

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              No, just be honest. “Bloomberg fradulent copyright strike on our black market documentary”.

              Still one sentence.

              I use a Firefox extension called Dearrow because of this understandable, but unfortunate trend.

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              Why is it a big deal? Don’t you agree with Linus that clickbait is just part of the game, and we should accept the sensational thumbnails and titles? Hate the game, not the player and all that?

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                Just because it’s being normalized by the Linuses and Tech Jesuses on youtube doesn’t mean we shouldn’t call it what it is.

                This video is click bait and the content is rather mid. We’re clearly supposed to feel some kind of outrage over a freedom of press kinda thing, but in reality the video is more like: waaah our ad revenue took a hit on this one video because of Big Evil Company abusing the copyright claim system, NOT FAIR! (Ignoring that this has been happening hundreds if not thousands of times per day for over a decade to much smaller channels than GamersNexus, without a peep from Tech Jesus on the issue).

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        It’s clickbait.

        That is an ignorant knee jerk claim.

        As I wrote in a previous response:
        Bloomberg has 10 days to file for lawsuit against Gamers Nexus. If they do, the take down stands, and it’s a strike until Gamers Nexus may win the case. Which will be expensive. 3 strikes and YouTube closes the channel with near zero option for appeal.

        Gamers Nexus cannot manage if a big company like Bloomberg goes all in. They can easily bankrupt a small channel like Gamers Nexus with frivolous lawsuits. And if you are bankrupt, you can’t defend yourself.

        The US judicial system is heavily tilted towards those that have more money.

        Buff

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            Where did I claim Gamers Nexus is above using click bait!
            But very clearly it isn’t here, and the amount of downvotes you received for claiming it, hints that most don’t agree with you.
            So maybe it’s not so much me, as it is you making an unreasonable and unfounded claim.

            And no the take down is not reverted, it is in a process where it MAY be reverted.

            Also I don’t see you provide a single valid argument for your statement, while I actually explain how it is not click bait, because the threat is real.

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              But very clearly it isn’t here

              How the hell isn’t it?

              Title: “Our Channel Could Be Deleted” <insert dramatic thumbnail featuring the word “SILENCED” in big capital letters>

              Yet even in the video itself they explain that :

              1. Youtube sided with them, the copyright strike got reverted and the video restored. The only recourse Bloomberg has is to press actual charges in a court of law.
              2. It takes three copyright strikes to delete a channel, not one.

              And I will add my own 3: YouTube will never just outright delete a cashcow channel like GamersNexus.

              I get that they’re pissed because the claim was bogus and it cost them good ad revenue on that video, and they will probably not recoup the cost of making it, but the channel is not and never was in danger of being deleted. So the title is clickbait intended to generate outrage for some, let’s be honest, rather mid content.

              the amount of downvotes

              LOL “I’m right because I got more upvotes”.

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                How the hell isn’t it?

                Because it is true, the channel could be deleted, and it was an obvious attempt by Bloomberg to silence him, which he shows many reason for why they may want to do in the video.

                When it is true it is not clickbait.

                Youtube sided with them, the copyright strike got reverted and the video restored.

                For the fourth time, it is NOT reverted, and the video is NOT restored.

                It takes three copyright strikes to delete a channel.

                Maybe it is the third? You don’t know, at least you haven’t shown anything to indicate that you do.

                And I will add my own 3: YouTube will never just outright delete a cashcow channel like GamersNexus.

                Again Gamers Nexus is small fry for YouTube.

                LOL “I’m right because I got more upvotes”.

                No you make false claims, and was downvoted for it. Usually click bait is an easily accepted answer, but here it was not because you are wrong.

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                  How the fuck are you so dense?

                  Read my whole comment. It is demonstrably NOT true.

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                    I did and edited my comment, adding more false claims doesn’t make you right.
                    Also it’s rich calling me dense, when you repeatedly make the same false claim that the take down is reverted when it is not. It’s explained very clearly in the video, that it takes 10 days from filing the complaint, and if Bloomberg persist on the issue, the take down stands.

                    You are very dense to not accept that when it’s explained to you at least three times!!!