• FreedomAdvocate
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    7 days ago

    It’s “tax evasion” in the sense that it’s a company using tax laws to minimise the amount of tax they pay, just like how you and I do when we do our taxes. The differences are it’s much easier to do for multinational corporations due to tax laws, And due to them being able to pay lots of accountants lots of money to find every way possible.

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        6 days ago

        There are a multitude of good and reasonable reasons why it’s possible. You can’t make companies pay tax on revenue because that would instantly throw 90% of companies into bankruptcy. You can’t stop companies from paying licensing fees etc to their parent company and writing it off as a business cost, because that would destroy all franchise stores etc.

        The tax “loopholes” exist for a legitimate reason, so companies structure themselves so they can take advantage of them. Getting rid of them would hurt the companies that need them more than the companies that “abuse” them.

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          6 days ago

          There are a multitude of good and reasonable reasons why it’s possible. You can’t make companies pay tax on revenue because that would instantly throw 90% of companies into bankruptcy.

          I see people say this all the time but it makes no sense. I pay taxes on revenue and so do you. We don’t get to deduct all our expenses from our salaries right?

          How come every single person in the country isn’t bankrupt if paying taxes on revenue leads to bankruptcy?

          You can’t stop companies from paying licensing fees etc to their parent company and writing it off as a business cost, because that would destroy all franchise stores etc.

          Yea so?

          The tax “loopholes” exist for a legitimate reason, so companies structure themselves so they can take advantage of them. Getting rid of them would hurt the companies that need them more than the companies that “abuse” them.

          I disagree. Companies exist in countries where these types of things are not permitted.

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            6 days ago

            I see people say this all the time but it makes no sense. I pay taxes on revenue and so do you. We don’t get to deduct all our expenses from our salaries right?

            Personal Income tax is not the same as taxes that businesses pay. You can make tax deductions too, and you can do salary sacrificing and many other things to reduce your income tax as well.

            If you made companies pay tax on revenue, pretty much every company in the entire world would close instantly.

            Yea so?

            So you think franchises shouldn’t exist?

            Companies exist in countries where these types of things are not permitted.

            Example please? Which companies in which countries are doing tax things that aren’t permitted?

            • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nzOP
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              6 days ago

              Personal Income tax is not the same as taxes that businesses pay.

              I know. That’s what I said. We pay taxes on revenue and business pay taxes on profits. They get to deduct all their expenses and we don’t.

              You can make tax deductions too, and you can do salary sacrificing and many other things to reduce your income tax as well.

              I can make some deductions but I can’t deduct all my expenses like a business does. If I was to deduct all my expenses like a business does I would indeed reduce my income taxes drastically.

              If you made companies pay tax on revenue, pretty much every company in the entire world would close instantly.

              Again if this is true why isn’t every person in the world bankrupt because they pay taxes on revenue?

              So you think franchises shouldn’t exist?

              Wouldn’t bother me at all.

              Example please? Which companies in which countries are doing tax things that aren’t permitted?

              I don’t understand why you decided to be so dishonest all of a sudden. Why did you go to “doing tax things”. When did I say there were countries where businesses didn’t “do tax things”?

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                6 days ago

                Your income is not revenue.

                Businesses only get to deduct business related expenses, the same way you and I get to deduct income-earning related expenses.

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                  5 days ago

                  Why isn’t my income revenue?

                  Businesses only get to deduct business related expenses

                  What other kinds of expenses does a business have?

                  the same way you and I get to deduct income-earning related expenses.

                  like what? I can’t deduct my costs associated with traveling to work. I can’t deduct my clothing I buy for work. I can’t deduct my lunch at work. I can’t deduct my laptop case or anything like that.

                  I incur tons of expenses for my work. I can’t deduct any of it.

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                    5 days ago

                    Because definitions……

                    You can deduct your laptop case, at least you can in Australia.

                    Businesses and individuals have different tax laws for good reasons. If businesses had to pay tax as an individual then there would be maybe 10 businesses left in the world. I was going to say that I’m sure you can see how that would be bad, but I’m not sure.