So he now wants to send interceptors so people cannot retaliate against genocide?
Also he is still doing the both sides thing. This is what a right winger should sound like. Hesitantly conceding. Not the “leader of progressives”.
So does this mean he’s gonna stop with the “Israel has a right to defend itself” bullshit? I swear if I hear him say that again I’m gonna vomit.
Fucking finally. Dammit Bernie. You already severed my heart strings for you. You can’t come back. But, keep saying it! Keep speaking the truth. Better late than never.
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There is a big narrative that loves to pick off the left-est of the left people in the US government, and come up with various bullshit reasons to criticize them.
You’ll never hear this kind of argument applied anywhere else. Like, if Beto O’Rourke said Gaza was a genocide, you wouldn’t see all these Lemmy comments saying “TOOK YOU FUCKING LONG ENOUGH YOU PIECE OF SHIT” or whatever. When that handful of countries said they wouldn’t do sporting events with Israel, I didn’t see anyone commenting “YEAH WHERE WAS THIS TWO YEARS AGO WHERE ARE THE FUCKING WAR CRIMES CHARGES” or anything like that. The extensive nitpicking is only aimed at people like AOC and Bernie who are significant leftist voices in government.
If you want to know what Bernie’s been actually saying about Gaza, this is it:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uVDPXtnTXUw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFhcSlrJcAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dd4cg-t8j8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_AWLQ4gk4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBZreokpA_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRrHfsqg990
And so on. He’s been doing what most of Lemmy would like to see someone in the US Congress doing: Yelling about Israel, what a fucking horror it is, and trying to stop US military aid. This extensive nailbiting about him calling it “ethnic cleansing” instead of “genocide” is just going to get smoothly replaced by these users with some other reason to nailbite about him, definitely not with any enthusiasm or support for him. I guarantee it.
Unfortunately, my standard is set pretty high especially for someone like Bernie who I really had on a pedestal. Things sound different when you have family on the ground. That being said I appreciate your post and sharing this information. I think the expectation for Bernie is set higher than others because he was meant to be “our guy”, same with AOC, so any falter feels 10x bigger than from those we already expect it from.
Sanders is built up to be the best of a bad lot; but he is so stereotypically an American senator, it leads to disappointment in those who had hopes. This is a natural reaction.
And while he has said things that are not bad, there is such a huge gap between him and what is needed, that he, the career politician does not have a chance to be esteemed by many on the left. And his words, which would be amazing to hear other politicians say, are judged harsher than the statements put out by them.
What fucking falter, what are you talking about? Calling it “ethnic cleansing” instead of “genocide” was your red line, and undoes all the relentless effort he’s been putting in to try to stop the US government from helping Israel with their horrifying crimes?
I literally just don’t get this. The AOC thing is incredibly stupid, too. I talked more about it here.
Better late than never ig…
tell that to the estimated one third of gaza that’s dead
Finally, now he should back up sanctions on israel and bds too
don’t hold your breath.
Just had to see if the Democratic establishment could sweep it under the rug first.
It’s really disappointing to learn almost every progressive voice in the US is so domesticated that they are effectively controlled opposition.
Too little, too late. I will never forgive him.
ehh… he is jewish i don’t ride him too hard to being wishy washy
AOC on the other hand… unforgivable.
His Jewish background and knowledge of the Holocaust makes this far worse. Bernie shall not be forgiven for this.
That, that comment is anti-semitic.
are jews naturally prone to genocide?
As a jew, I do hate when I wake up and commit a genocide.
No, he fucked up, like all the liberals in the democratic party. they all decided that AIPAC bribes are more important than countless childrens lives.
they are all complicit of genocide.
Ted Bundy doesn’t deserve a pardon if he calls himself a bad parson after all the murders.
jews are naturally predisposed to simp the genocide state at the very least dear.
the same way a german is predisposed to explain that pops was never never in SS and wermacht fought a clean war
with that being said… plenty of American jews know what’s up. no shade thrown on them with this comment.
No one is naturally predisposed to genocide.
you’re using a genocide to spread bigotry.
it is zionism that’s the culprit here.
there are definitely good jews and bad jews, and asking them about israel 's genocide in gaza is a litmus test for filtering them out (kinda like asking US “conservatives” if Biden legitimately won the 2020 election, it’s physically impossible for them to admit he did)…it’s literally a theocratic ethostate, there’s no if and or buts about it.
the bad jews helped nazi germany with their explusion of jews to push as many jews to modern-day israel as possible, knowing full-well what they were doing/planned on doing, it’s an incredibly fucked up thing to do to your “own people”.
if your anything but it against it, your “one of the baddies”
Oh, so he’s done complaining about Kamala now?
lol… let it go… she is done
