• unconsequential@slrpnk.net
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    15 hours ago

    Fucking finally. Dammit Bernie. You already severed my heart strings for you. You can’t come back. But, keep saying it! Keep speaking the truth. Better late than never.

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      13 hours ago

      🙄

      There is a big narrative that loves to pick off the left-est of the left people in the US government, and come up with various bullshit reasons to criticize them.

      You’ll never hear this kind of argument applied anywhere else. Like, if Beto O’Rourke said Gaza was a genocide, you wouldn’t see all these Lemmy comments saying “TOOK YOU FUCKING LONG ENOUGH YOU PIECE OF SHIT” or whatever. When that handful of countries said they wouldn’t do sporting events with Israel, I didn’t see anyone commenting “YEAH WHERE WAS THIS TWO YEARS AGO WHERE ARE THE FUCKING WAR CRIMES CHARGES” or anything like that. The extensive nitpicking is only aimed at people like AOC and Bernie who are significant leftist voices in government.

      If you want to know what Bernie’s been actually saying about Gaza, this is it:

      https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uVDPXtnTXUw

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFhcSlrJcAU

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dd4cg-t8j8

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2_AWLQ4gk4

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBZreokpA_s

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRrHfsqg990

      And so on. He’s been doing what most of Lemmy would like to see someone in the US Congress doing: Yelling about Israel, what a fucking horror it is, and trying to stop US military aid. This extensive nailbiting about him calling it “ethnic cleansing” instead of “genocide” is just going to get smoothly replaced by these users with some other reason to nailbite about him, definitely not with any enthusiasm or support for him. I guarantee it.

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        12 hours ago

        Unfortunately, my standard is set pretty high especially for someone like Bernie who I really had on a pedestal. Things sound different when you have family on the ground. That being said I appreciate your post and sharing this information. I think the expectation for Bernie is set higher than others because he was meant to be “our guy”, same with AOC, so any falter feels 10x bigger than from those we already expect it from.

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          12 hours ago

          Sanders is built up to be the best of a bad lot; but he is so stereotypically an American senator, it leads to disappointment in those who had hopes. This is a natural reaction.

          And while he has said things that are not bad, there is such a huge gap between him and what is needed, that he, the career politician does not have a chance to be esteemed by many on the left. And his words, which would be amazing to hear other politicians say, are judged harsher than the statements put out by them.

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          12 hours ago

          What fucking falter, what are you talking about? Calling it “ethnic cleansing” instead of “genocide” was your red line, and undoes all the relentless effort he’s been putting in to try to stop the US government from helping Israel with their horrifying crimes?

          I literally just don’t get this. The AOC thing is incredibly stupid, too. I talked more about it here.