For the replacement bot you offered, I did pass it on to the person who coded the MBFC bot, I honestly don’t know what happened to it after that.
Okay, so when you said:
Specifically, with the MBFC bot, yeah, I thought, and still think, it’s a good idea. Was it perfect? Well, no, but it was the best we could do for free. Or free-ish, TBH I’m not sure if there were fees involved in the API use. I can tell you the alternates I looked at were more money than I personally would pay.
But when the complaints on the bot came in, I told people honestly “Hey, I’m open, what’s an alternative?”
At best the response was silence, at worst it was angry noises.
… did you forget that all of that had happened, or what led you to summarize it in that objectively inaccurate way? It wasn’t just me either, the people you summarize as “rabidly anti-bot” actually took a ton of time to explain their reasons in detail and offer alternatives, this is just ridiculous trying to pretend that they were the ones being stubborn and childish about it.
Honestly I’m not sure even what response I am looking for from this. Just making the point I guess, but it’s already been hashed over to the moon and back. Feel free to respond or not, I don’t think it will change anyone’s mind unless you have some kind of really great explanation or dramatic reason for saying it this way, which seems unlikely.
For the Canadian thing? I made my position clear multiple times, I’m not re-hashing months old Lemmy drama.
(For those just joining us, Jordan isn’t Canadian and made a mistake about terminology in the Canadian governmental system, which is fine, but then he started taking mod action against the correct terminology as “misinformation,” and when many people including Canadians who are obviously familiar with it and lemmy.world admins tried to explain it to him, they all just kind of got this type of response.)
(Honestly like I say I also see no benefit to me addressing these issues further. As Skavau said, it seems like it’s more an issue at this point of, Jordan isn’t planning on changing his methods of interaction, and the question is what the rest of Lemmy does about it.)
It’s not a matter of forgetting all that happened, it’s a matter of having dozens of people going “Reeeeeeee! We hate the bot!” and having one person with a sane reply.
As a rule, yes, the responses I got were non-productive. Yours was the exception, not the rule, it got kicked up and nothing came from it.
TBH, that’s the piece I legit don’t remember, why it couldn’t be implemented, I’d have to dig back through old messages to get the whys and wherefores.
But in the end, given the groups reaction to bots in general? I doubt it would make any difference.
Clearly silence is better than offering a solution.
A solution carries the implication of critique, the recognition of a problem, and authority, ‘respecting’ authority, is very importamt to our dear @jordanlund@lemmy.world
Now on your knees, you filthy disrespectful authority disrespecting bastard, and start digging.
Nothing to do with disrespect… Out of all the people complaining, when asked “Well, what do you suggest?” One person had an idea and everyone else dummied up.
As it turned out, the one suggestion didn’t work out either, but in the end, I don’t think it matters, the people who were complaining would have hated it too.
I hage challlenged you honorably by the code d’ebatemebro, sir. A code you clearly live by, except when it requires anything of you.
Until you give a reason for your rank cowardice and refusal to accept, do not speak to me as you would an equal. Do not splash me with your expectorate lies and so-called justifications that serve only as insults. I am your better in matters of wit and honor, you asmitted this when you declined to accept in a timely manner, and as such I demans the deference worthy of my station, you vile quislinh worm.
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Okay, so when you said:
… did you forget that all of that had happened, or what led you to summarize it in that objectively inaccurate way? It wasn’t just me either, the people you summarize as “rabidly anti-bot” actually took a ton of time to explain their reasons in detail and offer alternatives, this is just ridiculous trying to pretend that they were the ones being stubborn and childish about it.
Honestly I’m not sure even what response I am looking for from this. Just making the point I guess, but it’s already been hashed over to the moon and back. Feel free to respond or not, I don’t think it will change anyone’s mind unless you have some kind of really great explanation or dramatic reason for saying it this way, which seems unlikely.
(For those just joining us, Jordan isn’t Canadian and made a mistake about terminology in the Canadian governmental system, which is fine, but then he started taking mod action against the correct terminology as “misinformation,” and when many people including Canadians who are obviously familiar with it and lemmy.world admins tried to explain it to him, they all just kind of got this type of response.)
(Honestly like I say I also see no benefit to me addressing these issues further. As Skavau said, it seems like it’s more an issue at this point of, Jordan isn’t planning on changing his methods of interaction, and the question is what the rest of Lemmy does about it.)
It’s not a matter of forgetting all that happened, it’s a matter of having dozens of people going “Reeeeeeee! We hate the bot!” and having one person with a sane reply.
As a rule, yes, the responses I got were non-productive. Yours was the exception, not the rule, it got kicked up and nothing came from it.
TBH, that’s the piece I legit don’t remember, why it couldn’t be implemented, I’d have to dig back through old messages to get the whys and wherefores.
But in the end, given the groups reaction to bots in general? I doubt it would make any difference.
“At best the response was silence”
IDK man, I’m done with this conversation
Clearly silence is better than offering a solution.
A solution carries the implication of critique, the recognition of a problem, and authority, ‘respecting’ authority, is very importamt to our dear @jordanlund@lemmy.world
Now on your knees, you filthy disrespectful authority disrespecting bastard, and start digging.
Nothing to do with disrespect… Out of all the people complaining, when asked “Well, what do you suggest?” One person had an idea and everyone else dummied up.
As it turned out, the one suggestion didn’t work out either, but in the end, I don’t think it matters, the people who were complaining would have hated it too.
I hage challlenged you honorably by the code d’ebatemebro, sir. A code you clearly live by, except when it requires anything of you.
Until you give a reason for your rank cowardice and refusal to accept, do not speak to me as you would an equal. Do not splash me with your expectorate lies and so-called justifications that serve only as insults. I am your better in matters of wit and honor, you asmitted this when you declined to accept in a timely manner, and as such I demans the deference worthy of my station, you vile quislinh worm.