• ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    But you still choose the final result…for something like that, the how is really quite irrelevant, it is just the end result that matters and that still remains in the hands of humans as they’re the ones to settle on the final solution.

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      1 day ago

      the how is really quite irrelevant

      That’s our point. The how is entirely relevant. It’s what makes art interesting and meaningful. Without the how and why, it’s just colors and noise.

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        21 hours ago

        it’s just colors and noise.

        But that’s exactly my point; logos, icons, stock images etc. are already nothing but noise meant to just catch the eye…might as well just get it auto-generated.

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          20 hours ago

          That you can’t see or appreciate the intent of the artist behind those doesn’t mean it’s not there or not important. Why they were made or how they are used in the end is not important. All that matters is how they were made.

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            14 hours ago

            I would honestly argue that the way an artist makes art is also completely irrelevant. The art is only meaningful in the way it’s perceived, how the artist physically makes it is of very little importance. The tools and materials are just a means to an end, it’s the finished product that inspires feelings and thoughts, not the process of how it came to be.

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              5 hours ago

              Right, but people who type prompts into AI art generators aren’t actually “making” anything though, are they?

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                4 hours ago

                No, they’re not, never claimed they did. I said that what comes from it still holds value and is still subject to human approval in the end.

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              12 hours ago

              You’ve stated as much already. If we’re just repeating ourselves here, I’ll just copy-paste.

              That you can’t see or appreciate the intent of the artist behind those doesn’t mean it’s not there or not important.

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      21 hours ago

      That’s like saying you cooked a chicken sandwich because you ordered it off the menu.

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        16 hours ago

        Not really. It’s the equivalent of ordering a “build it yourself” sandwich where you specify type of bread and content, and having someone else make it. Yes you didn’t actually assemble the sandwich yourself, but who cares how that happened, you have the sandwich you wanted, it contains what you wanted, it tastes and looks like you intended.

        I’m not arguing that people using AI generated images can call themselves artists, I’m arguing that AI generated can have a useful purpose replacing menial “art” work.

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          5 hours ago

          and having someone else make it.

          No, having a soulless machine make it.

          Then claiming that you made it yourself even though all you did was select a few things on a menu.

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            4 hours ago

            Oh my fucking god people…I didn’t say you could claim you made something when using AI generated images. I claimed it still makes sense for some things because they hold pretty much no artistic value when made by humans already (like icons, stock images and logos)