Hey, I get it. Obama wasn’t a bad President on the scale of US Presidents, but there are a lot of left wing people who have genuine grievances with him.
I could see anyone who is an advocate for or Middle Eastern themselves be pretty damned pissed at him, considering he dropped twenty-six thousand bombs on seven countries. This was AFTER he won the Nobel Peace Prize.
I was right smack in the middle of the Finance Industry back in the 2008 Crash and paid very close attention to what he did to “rescue the Economy” in the aftermath of it.
Let’s just say that the complete total crash from well above most of Europe to near zero of Social Mobility in America and the acceleration of the growth in inequality (especially between people whose income comes from Work vs people whose income comes from Asset Ownership) and subsequent problems with impoverishment of the Working Class which fed the growth of the vote in Far Right Populists like Trump, are all down to which kind of people Obama choose to Rescue and which ones he chose to pay for it.
He didn’t just cause grievances for left wing people, he fucked up the US with his choices at a pivotal moment, pretty much plowing, fertilizing and seeding the field were Trumpism grew.
His influence is way more massive than it seem to many, mainly because of the moment in History when he became president made his choices have far reaching effects that structurally pivoted the US Economy which in turn cascaded into changes to the US Politics and Society.
However, as he’s a veritable songbird with the gift of the gab (plus Liberals pushed for decade the whole Racist idea that his race made him inherently a better person) a lot of people formed opinions on him based on his race and his speeches rather than on his actions.
You make a lot of great points. It does make me wonder if I to cut Obama a lot of slack because of the color of his skin. I certainly bought the hope rhetoric before I began to see a pattern of the status quo.
I still remember how much hay was made from him being “The first Afro-American President”: the Democrats sold the hell out of him being Black as a good thing (not least to get more votes for him from Black Communities) whilst the Republicans sold the hell out of him being Black as a bad thing.
His race kept getting dug up (and, as you see here, still is) and IMHO it together with his truly exceptional gift of the gab obscured the actual character of the man as shown by his actions which were often pretty negative and had widespread negative consequences some of which still resonate today.
In many ways he’s a symbol of American politics highly divisive and mainly performative approach to discrimination, IMHO.
Besides being famous for drone striking and murder in the Middle East, Obama’s most impactful policy on America was bailing out Wall Street with American taxpayer dollars and surpressing protests against it.
Many corrupt billionaires could have lost their assets in 2008 but Obama is the reason the elite cabal is still alive and kicking. And they were even able to buy the dip.
He’s a sleazy sociopath with the gift of the gab who happens to be Afro-American.
The last part has nothing to do with the rest, both in a negative sense and a positive sense - sleazy sociopaths with the gift of the gab come in all sizes, shapes and colors.
In fact, it’s actually a form of Prejudice to expect a black American President to be any better towards Afro-Americans than a non-black one: Racism but “positive”, the kind that liberals tend to voice towards minorities whose votes they want to get.
The entire logic of using an “Uncle Tom” on Obama is that he is expected to treat black people better because of being himself black, but is not doing so, “hence” he is like Uncle Tom.
It’s Racist to expect that as a black person he would treat black people better both because of the “he’s black hence” part (i.e. expecting that what one does depends on skin color) and the expectation that people should help people of the same skin color (which when that skin color is “white” is literally a white supremacist dog-whistle).
In summary, the entire concept of Race Traitor - which for Afro-Americans is encapsulated in calling them an Uncle Tom - is Racist as fuck, which is probably why even the NAZIs would throw around accusations of people being Race Traitors when they were deemed Arians but did not support the NAZIs.
The non-Racist take is to expect that people in positions of power should help people in need, quite independently of the race of any of them. From that viewpoint, which has no “Race Traitor” concept, Obama by his own actions is just another sleazy sociopath.
Obama is literally defending Apartheid and sent 38 billion dollars to Israel which is why I called him Uncle Tom in the title. Fun fact Americans are not the only actual people in this world.
Sure mate, that’s why he was called Uncle Tom which is a form of slander against Afro-Americans which accuses them of being a Race Traitor, which is literally the idea that one didn’t do enough for one’s race.
Yeah that caught me way off guard.
He may be too middle of the road but to call him a race traitor like that is absolutely wild.
Like this is a headline I expect to see from a hardcore rightwing publication.
Hey, I get it. Obama wasn’t a bad President on the scale of US Presidents, but there are a lot of left wing people who have genuine grievances with him.
I could see anyone who is an advocate for or Middle Eastern themselves be pretty damned pissed at him, considering he dropped twenty-six thousand bombs on seven countries. This was AFTER he won the Nobel Peace Prize.
I was right smack in the middle of the Finance Industry back in the 2008 Crash and paid very close attention to what he did to “rescue the Economy” in the aftermath of it.
Let’s just say that the complete total crash from well above most of Europe to near zero of Social Mobility in America and the acceleration of the growth in inequality (especially between people whose income comes from Work vs people whose income comes from Asset Ownership) and subsequent problems with impoverishment of the Working Class which fed the growth of the vote in Far Right Populists like Trump, are all down to which kind of people Obama choose to Rescue and which ones he chose to pay for it.
He didn’t just cause grievances for left wing people, he fucked up the US with his choices at a pivotal moment, pretty much plowing, fertilizing and seeding the field were Trumpism grew.
His influence is way more massive than it seem to many, mainly because of the moment in History when he became president made his choices have far reaching effects that structurally pivoted the US Economy which in turn cascaded into changes to the US Politics and Society.
However, as he’s a veritable songbird with the gift of the gab (plus Liberals pushed for decade the whole Racist idea that his race made him inherently a better person) a lot of people formed opinions on him based on his race and his speeches rather than on his actions.
You make a lot of great points. It does make me wonder if I to cut Obama a lot of slack because of the color of his skin. I certainly bought the hope rhetoric before I began to see a pattern of the status quo.
I still remember how much hay was made from him being “The first Afro-American President”: the Democrats sold the hell out of him being Black as a good thing (not least to get more votes for him from Black Communities) whilst the Republicans sold the hell out of him being Black as a bad thing.
His race kept getting dug up (and, as you see here, still is) and IMHO it together with his truly exceptional gift of the gab obscured the actual character of the man as shown by his actions which were often pretty negative and had widespread negative consequences some of which still resonate today.
In many ways he’s a symbol of American politics highly divisive and mainly performative approach to discrimination, IMHO.
Besides being famous for drone striking and murder in the Middle East, Obama’s most impactful policy on America was bailing out Wall Street with American taxpayer dollars and surpressing protests against it.
Many corrupt billionaires could have lost their assets in 2008 but Obama is the reason the elite cabal is still alive and kicking. And they were even able to buy the dip.
He is definitely a race traitor and his policies were racist.
Explain.
Ask me nicely
No.
OK fuck off then.
L take
You have zero knowledge of history and this slimy POS.
Another L take
LOL another well funded comment, to be expected from an easily fooled simpleton, defending a horrible warmonger and enemy of the people.
L take
jeez you’re a child
american dumb
He’s a sleazy sociopath with the gift of the gab who happens to be Afro-American.
The last part has nothing to do with the rest, both in a negative sense and a positive sense - sleazy sociopaths with the gift of the gab come in all sizes, shapes and colors.
In fact, it’s actually a form of Prejudice to expect a black American President to be any better towards Afro-Americans than a non-black one: Racism but “positive”, the kind that liberals tend to voice towards minorities whose votes they want to get.
Indeed the last part has got nothing to do with the first, nobody said it had.
It is however relevant since we’re talking about Uncle Tom and race.
Another thing I never said, are you not reading my comments or are just misinterpreting things deliberately to find some non-existent racism?
The entire logic of using an “Uncle Tom” on Obama is that he is expected to treat black people better because of being himself black, but is not doing so, “hence” he is like Uncle Tom.
It’s Racist to expect that as a black person he would treat black people better both because of the “he’s black hence” part (i.e. expecting that what one does depends on skin color) and the expectation that people should help people of the same skin color (which when that skin color is “white” is literally a white supremacist dog-whistle).
In summary, the entire concept of Race Traitor - which for Afro-Americans is encapsulated in calling them an Uncle Tom - is Racist as fuck, which is probably why even the NAZIs would throw around accusations of people being Race Traitors when they were deemed Arians but did not support the NAZIs.
The non-Racist take is to expect that people in positions of power should help people in need, quite independently of the race of any of them. From that viewpoint, which has no “Race Traitor” concept, Obama by his own actions is just another sleazy sociopath.
Obama is literally defending Apartheid and sent 38 billion dollars to Israel which is why I called him Uncle Tom in the title. Fun fact Americans are not the only actual people in this world.
No he is not. You keep making up things.
And so double down while baselessly accusing others of racism, that is really despicable.
Sure mate, that’s why he was called Uncle Tom which is a form of slander against Afro-Americans which accuses them of being a Race Traitor, which is literally the idea that one didn’t do enough for one’s race.