A coalition of civil rights groups expects the turnout on Oct. 18 will be even bigger than the first nationwide protest held in June, which by some counts was the largest in U.S. history.
With respect, you don’t seem to understand how strikes happen. Strikes can only occur with organization and planning… People need to eat, they need to be assured that if they strike, everyone else will too, etc. And one way to kickstart that organization is to get folks together at a big protest to recruit them to the strike organizing cause.
With respect, I understand how a strike works. I understand that if you want something done you have to commit. What we are seeing now is completely unprecedented in US history. None of those people in power give a shit and none of those people will ever budge. It does not matter how much protesting you do it will not happen. The only thing that will happen is to completely shut down the country as citizens. Yes, food, rent, that is going to be a big issue. And if people are not willing to do that then we need to just accept our new fascist regime and figure out how to survive
My point is that protesting and organizing—you know, getting out into the real world and connecting with real people—is how you get to a shutdown of the system. Strikes don’t get organized on social media.
I mean, we need a nationwide action plan, and that doesn’t happen locally.
It actually can start locally. Let’s say, for instance, Chicago starts a single-day citywide strike. That demonstrates to other cities that it can be done; it bridges the imagination gap. Then maybe we have multiple cities in the midwest start striking. And perhaps soon, the east coast. And it spreads from there.
They really is just nothing we can do as citizens at this point. Get out if you can, or buy a gun.
Okay doomer. 😄
But seriously, I encourage you not to give up this early in the “game.” If you do, you are complicit with the authoritarians. Find your local people doing resistance work. Resist alongside them. Don’t give up hope.
The Nazis collected sympathy by pointing to the deaths of officers at the hands of assassins. On its own, blind violence won’t always do what you want to them. You need to grind down the machines of the system they’re pushing, and you cannot give them easy excuses to legitimize further support.
To be clear, I’m not calling you a doomer for whistleblowing. I’m calling you a doomer for the “there really is just nothing we can do” sentiment. But honestly, I think you and I both can do better than giving in to nihilism.
There is A LOT you can do locally too. Lots of people need help and remember that federal laws and rules are enforced locally. A local group can’t stop ICE but it can stop some ICE stuff happening next door.
With respect, you don’t seem to understand how strikes happen. Strikes can only occur with organization and planning… People need to eat, they need to be assured that if they strike, everyone else will too, etc. And one way to kickstart that organization is to get folks together at a big protest to recruit them to the strike organizing cause.
With respect, I understand how a strike works. I understand that if you want something done you have to commit. What we are seeing now is completely unprecedented in US history. None of those people in power give a shit and none of those people will ever budge. It does not matter how much protesting you do it will not happen. The only thing that will happen is to completely shut down the country as citizens. Yes, food, rent, that is going to be a big issue. And if people are not willing to do that then we need to just accept our new fascist regime and figure out how to survive
My point is that protesting and organizing—you know, getting out into the real world and connecting with real people—is how you get to a shutdown of the system. Strikes don’t get organized on social media.
I mean, we need a nationwide action plan, and that doesn’t happen locally.
They really is just nothing we can do as citizens at this point. Get out if you can, or buy a gun.
It actually can start locally. Let’s say, for instance, Chicago starts a single-day citywide strike. That demonstrates to other cities that it can be done; it bridges the imagination gap. Then maybe we have multiple cities in the midwest start striking. And perhaps soon, the east coast. And it spreads from there.
Okay doomer. 😄
But seriously, I encourage you not to give up this early in the “game.” If you do, you are complicit with the authoritarians. Find your local people doing resistance work. Resist alongside them. Don’t give up hope.
I wonder if people in the 1930s called the Nazi whistleblowers “doomers.” Boy would they have been wrong.
The Nazis collected sympathy by pointing to the deaths of officers at the hands of assassins. On its own, blind violence won’t always do what you want to them. You need to grind down the machines of the system they’re pushing, and you cannot give them easy excuses to legitimize further support.
There is no time for that. The actions the would work in WWII are not applicable today. The only thing they fear is being the target.
To be clear, I’m not calling you a doomer for whistleblowing. I’m calling you a doomer for the “there really is just nothing we can do” sentiment. But honestly, I think you and I both can do better than giving in to nihilism.
We can move.
There is A LOT you can do locally too. Lots of people need help and remember that federal laws and rules are enforced locally. A local group can’t stop ICE but it can stop some ICE stuff happening next door.