The recent recognitions of a Palestinian state and the October 10 ceasefire have been followed by a flurry of calls to “deradicalize” Palestinian society. The New York Times editorial board went so far as to compare this deradicalization project to the denazification of Germany after the Second World War. These calls have the situation backwards to the point of farce.
Yeah I’m sure Netanyahu is really impressed with you being upset that he did exactly what he promised to do if he got elected… And apparently not caring about Hamas enabling him to do so at the same time
Netanyahu love that you shift the blame to Palestinians and use his excuses as valid reasons for the state of Israel continue occupation, continue stealing wesbtbankers land and allow the settler terrorists to attack Palestinian civilians
Well I’m not saying, as you seem to hinge your argument on, that Netanyahu is blameless
I mean, he ran his election campaign on it! lol
I’m saying Hamas should not be excused for helping him win it.
Here we go again you keep talking about Netanyahu which we all know he is a terrible war criminal. Yet you can’t admit that Israel always wanted the whole land . I showed you that Shimon Perez who was his opponent was as bad as Netanyahu. I showed you Israeli leaders all over the decades defending occupation. I will repeat them again
https://www.972mag.com/yitzhak-rabin-oslo-accords-aoc/
https://www.palquest.org/en/historictext/24965/yitzhaq-rabin’s-address-knesset-after-israeli-palestinian-agreement
We would like this to be an entity which is less than a state, and which will independently run the lives of the Palestinians under its authority. The borders of the State of Israel, during the permanent solution, will be beyond the lines which existed before the Six Day War. We will not return to the 4 June 1967 lines. Yitzhak Rabin
There is Israeli leaders that are less honest than others that’s all. All of them do not want a Palestinian state
Do you think Arafat wanted an Israeli state?
So now you even deny that Arafat wanted an Israeli state. Have some shame please
https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/nea/rls/22579.htm
In return Rabin recognized the PLO but not the Palestinian state. So we know very well that it is Israel who never ever recognized the other side based on 67 border
Since you keep ignoring evidence I have to copy again the same proofs
https://www.palquest.org/en/historictext/24965/yitzhaq-rabin’s-address-knesset-after-israeli-palestinian-agreement
We would like this to be an entity which is less than a state, and which will independently run the lives of the Palestinians under its authority. The borders of the State of Israel, during the permanent solution, will be beyond the lines which existed before the Six Day War. We will not return to the 4 June 1967 lines. Yitzhak Rabin
I’m not asking whether Arafat agreed to Oslo - we know he did. I’m asking whether you think he was keeping his fingers crossed behind his back when he did. You seem to think this was the case for Rabin and Perez, so why don’t you extend the same courtesy to Arafat?
I think it would be very interesting for you to read up on Netanyahu’s criticism of the Oslo Accords from back when he was an opposition leader running against Perez. You’ll be happily surprised to find out he was using the exact same arguments as you are now, claiming the other side could never be trusted.
You asked if Arafat recognized the state of Israel and he did and I provided you the evidence. I gave you ststements from Israeli leaders from all eras and ignored them
You are the one who keep blaming palestinian for the maintenance of the occupation like Netenyahu claim and all Israel leaders refused to give Palestinians a full fledged state with full sovereignty
You need to read my comment again then. I didn’t ask whether he stated he recognized it after Oslo. .
Then what do you make of this statement by Arafat?
There we go with people who think Netanyahu is the only problem and not the Zionist ideology that radicalized Israelis and is the reason why Israel is maintaining occupation . Netanyahu winning has nothing to do with Hamas.
Answer this simple question. Do you think Israel want to end occupation if Hamas is destroyed?
You really need to read up on the political situation in Israel in the mid-'90s
You need to read who was the main opponent against Netenyahu. He was one of the early Israeli leaders that supported the building of settlements
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20160928-shimon-peres-israeli-war-criminal-whose-victims-the-west-ignored
It is pretty clear that you hide behind Hamas and Netenyahu to defend Israel which never wanted peace based on their leaders themselves
Why do you think Rabin and Peres agreed to the Oslo Accords?
If you believe an Israeli can never be trusted to uphold a peace agreement, how do you suggest this ever gets resolved?
They are hypocrites and their war crimes proves it
Israel should become an isolated state heavily sanctioned, nobody should give a single dime or arm to Israel so Israel is forced to discuss in good faith. Then Israel should dismantle all his settlements over the time if the two state solution is agreed about or implement a one state solution with equal rights. Whatever there is a one state or a two state and army is necessary to fight anybody who refuse peace whatever it is Israelis or Palestinians
I know you will say that it’s is not realistic but right now there is not a single short term realistic easy solution because Israel refuse peace, the West and even Arab countries are allowing Israel to do whatever they want, Palestinians will keep resisting sometimes according the international laws and someone just unjustifiable retaliation so we end up in the same status quo that only serve Israel