The Democratic Party is the party of the wealthy people who don’t like the policies of the wealthy people who run the Republican Party.
There is no way that we’ll ever have a government for the people until we pass campaign finance reform, and the wealthy people who run the parties don’t want that to happen.
If we can’t get giant popular sentiment to do something like push for a constitutional amendment, then the best we can ever hope for is tiny baby steps.
STAR voting is a little bit better. It’s easier to understand and easier to implement, and also honestly a little more accurate (and doesn’t suffer from any of the inherent mathematical problems that exist in an ordinal-ranking-only system).
It barely matters, almost anything would be an improvement over FPTP + politicial parties so I’m not trying to tear down one solution as the enemy of the perfect, but STAR is a little bit better.
Yeah. STAR is simple: Everyone gives each candidate from 0 to 5 stars, and then whoever has the most stars wins. Easy peazy lemon squeezy. There’s none of this “hold on let me fire up the algorithm…” involved.
There is no way that we’ll ever have a government for the people until we pass campaign finance reform, and the wealthy people who run the parties don’t want that to happen.
This exactly. They won’t give that up by themselves. Simple greed.
Can this even be solved democratically, i.e. without some sort of revolution?
Theoretically? Maybe. If a critical mass of people started voting in primaries for candidates who promise that then followed through with voting in the general. Then primaried them the second they veered off the path.
In reality? That’s not going to happen. Moneyed interests, entrenched systems, lying jackasses, and low information voters will stand in the way.
The thing is, if you can’t convince people to vote, you’re not going to convince them to revolt. It’s orders of magnitude easier to fill in a bubble sheet than it is to take up arms and risk your life.
The Democratic Party is the party of the wealthy people who don’t like the policies of the wealthy people who run the Republican Party.
There is no way that we’ll ever have a government for the people until we pass campaign finance reform, and the wealthy people who run the parties don’t want that to happen.
If we can’t get giant popular sentiment to do something like push for a constitutional amendment, then the best we can ever hope for is tiny baby steps.
We also need ranked-choice voting.
STAR voting is a little bit better. It’s easier to understand and easier to implement, and also honestly a little more accurate (and doesn’t suffer from any of the inherent mathematical problems that exist in an ordinal-ranking-only system).
It barely matters, almost anything would be an improvement over FPTP + politicial parties so I’m not trying to tear down one solution as the enemy of the perfect, but STAR is a little bit better.
Good to know! The mathematics behind this stuff are beyond me at the moment.
Yeah. STAR is simple: Everyone gives each candidate from 0 to 5 stars, and then whoever has the most stars wins. Easy peazy lemon squeezy. There’s none of this “hold on let me fire up the algorithm…” involved.
This exactly. They won’t give that up by themselves. Simple greed.
Can this even be solved democratically, i.e. without some sort of revolution?
Theoretically? Maybe. If a critical mass of people started voting in primaries for candidates who promise that then followed through with voting in the general. Then primaried them the second they veered off the path.
In reality? That’s not going to happen. Moneyed interests, entrenched systems, lying jackasses, and low information voters will stand in the way.
We need a recall method. No confidence mechanism.
The thing is, if you can’t convince people to vote, you’re not going to convince them to revolt. It’s orders of magnitude easier to fill in a bubble sheet than it is to take up arms and risk your life.
Is that the only sort of revolution there is?
Is there a sort that requires less risk and effort than filling out a bubble sheet?
That’s not what I meant.
What did you mean?