How do I opt my access point out of Google Location services?
To opt out, change the SSID (name) of your Wi-Fi access point (your wireless network name) so that it ends with “_nomap.” For example, if your SSID is “12345,” you would change it to “12345_nomap.”
I recall this being announced a decade or more ago. At the time, I wasn’t so jaded and was more surprised than anything else that it was opt-out rather than opt-in.
Microsoft has an additional requirement where “_optout” has to be somewhere in the SSID (not necessarily at the end). This was detailed in a now deleted support post.
Every WiFi router and network has something called an SSID and a BSSID. The SSID is the friendly name that you use to show off your puns to your neighbors. The BSSID is a 6 byte MAC address. All devices use the BSSID when connecting and communicating.
With a non hidden SSID, your router broadcasts the SSID and BSSID.
The BSSID doesn’t change even if you change your SSID (Though APs with support for multiple SSID create a different BSSID per network) and it’s what is actually used for geo location.
When it’s hidden, it doesn’t send the SSID out, but sends out packets with the BSSID. Clients then scream out to the void “anybody know the SSID ‘My Secret SSID??’” Then it’ll respond.
So basically hidden networks still send out the unique identifying address and then when you take your phone with you, you’re just telling everybody what your home WiFi is called.
I actually had to do that with my phone’s hotspot name because I used to play Pokemon Go on a tablet which was Wi-Fi tethered to the phone. Before I renamed it to opt out, the game would randomly jump me to wherever the network had last been scanned any time the tablet’s GPS got too flaky.
related : https://support.google.com/maps/answer/1725632?hl=en
I recall this being announced a decade or more ago. At the time, I wasn’t so jaded and was more surprised than anything else that it was opt-out rather than opt-in.
Now I’m more annoyed than surprised.
Microsoft has an additional requirement where “_optout” has to be somewhere in the SSID (not necessarily at the end). This was detailed in a now deleted support post.
So now my SSID has to be myname_nomap_optout_dontscan_ffswhy_fuckoffanddie?
And just like robots.txt, I’m sure they will totally honor this in perpetuity
/s
And remember: this won’t work with “hidden” SSIDs.
From what I recall hidden SSIDs will always be used for location services.
That isn’t great.
I thought hidden SSIDs aren’t discoverable :(
Every WiFi router and network has something called an SSID and a BSSID. The SSID is the friendly name that you use to show off your puns to your neighbors. The BSSID is a 6 byte MAC address. All devices use the BSSID when connecting and communicating.
With a non hidden SSID, your router broadcasts the SSID and BSSID.
The BSSID doesn’t change even if you change your SSID (Though APs with support for multiple SSID create a different BSSID per network) and it’s what is actually used for geo location.
When it’s hidden, it doesn’t send the SSID out, but sends out packets with the BSSID. Clients then scream out to the void “anybody know the SSID ‘My Secret SSID??’” Then it’ll respond.
So basically hidden networks still send out the unique identifying address and then when you take your phone with you, you’re just telling everybody what your home WiFi is called.
Hidden SSIDs are not that useful.
Would’ve been cool if the APs would rotate the mac address
I actually had to do that with my phone’s hotspot name because I used to play Pokemon Go on a tablet which was Wi-Fi tethered to the phone. Before I renamed it to opt out, the game would randomly jump me to wherever the network had last been scanned any time the tablet’s GPS got too flaky.