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  • It’s interesting to see how people would compare Israel’s guilt to that of, say, Turkey. The latter put a genocide on 1,5 million Armenians to carve out their territory.

    And if you have paid attention, there are quite few voices there as well to officially recognize it as a genocide. It’s also rather important to add the bit where this happened before the word genocide existed. Lastly, if we go back far enough in history we’ll find dozens of examples that would have been genocides but again, we didn’t really have that concept setup until after WWII. From the Wikipedia article on genocide

    The 1946 judgement against Arthur Greiser issued by a Polish court was the first legal verdict that mentioned the term, using Lemkin’s original definition.

    Also I made the argument that Israel perhaps shouldn’t exist because it has been an agressor from pretty much day one and it has continued this to the point where there is a clear pattern of aggression. Though the Turks, to continue your example, suppress the Kurds, I haven’t seen turkey attack nearly all of its neighbors, and they have definitely not committed genocide in the past 50 years

    Israel, on the other side, has been in countless wars with countless countries. It executed (understandable but still) extrajudicial executions, it has subjugated Palestinians to the worst atrocities seen since WWII for over 5 decades now. Hell, they’ve been funding terrorists (Hamas) just so they could continue murdering innocent Palestinian with a flimsy excuse. They regularly let “settlers” (nice euphemism there) steal Palestinian houses and land, and if Palestinians resisted even the slightest bit, they’d be murdered without repercussions. For decades.

    I’d argue that there is a clear structural pattern of aggression and violence from this state, hence the question: should this state continue to exist? Because if it does so in its current form, I guarantee you that the middle east will never find peace.

    Then, Palestinians aren’t trying to create a state within Israel. They had their lands, were driven off of it, Hardee’s in small areas which are the places they’d like to have their independent state with Israel being a neighbor.

    And yeah, the way that the middle east was carved up was asking for trouble, because of course it was. That, however, doesn’t excuse anything that Israel is doing today nor anything of what it has been doing for decades.


  • Not nearly as bad as trying to build a tunnel under the ocean through different tectonic plates.

    Again, a great actual engineer might somehow be able to pull that off but Elmo Musk’s single self contribution to engineering has been the cyber truck.

    Other things that actually sorta work, like say the SpaceX rockets (again, sort of work) are all the results of actual engineers doing their jobs and even then; you don’t see a ticket scientist building a tunnel because the two fields are extremely different and the amount of knowledge and expertise required to do either is so much that in reality you don’t have “an engineer” working on them, but entire teams of experts dedicated to separate sections of those types of projects. Yet, there are scores of people thinking that Elmo actually is an engineer (he is not), that is is a great engineer (lol no), that he designed the SpaceX rockets (lolololol) and that he is capable of designing a tunnel like that (aneurysm levels of hells to the no)


  • It would be very interesting to see how Jews would respond to the same questions about Nazis

    Same question from you.

    See, sometimes there is this thing called “both sides can be wrong” but in this case the power imbalance combined with 5 decades of Israel terrorizing Palestinians makes it that you can just safely say that Israel is the guilty party here, period, end of discussion

    This issue isn’t new. 4 decades ago as a child I read about abuses from Israel against Palestinians. 4 decades ago I remember someone making national headlines because she dated to hang a Palestine flag from her house. She was immediately labelled an anti-Semite, whereas all she wanted was some basic support for suffering Palestinians.

    Don’t even start about Hamas. Hamas is at least in part funded by Israel to be a terrorist group so that Netanyahu had an excuse to continue to terrorize Palestinians.

    You can’t take all that and then say “weeeeellll, but Palestinians have done bad things too, you know!”

    I’m sure they did, I’m sure they have. I’m also sure it’s irrelevant as it’s literally pennies to the dollars that Israel is doing and has been doing since it’s founding

    I’m at the point where I wonder if the Israeli as a state should continue to exist. It’s toxic, it’s at the source of almost every conflict in the middle east since WWII. It continuously attacks everyone around them. It sends in tanks and military to kill children who dared to throw stones. Then you keep seeing these polls where the majority of Jews in Israel have, shall we say euphemistically, rather dark opinions. I keep seeing videos of entire neighborhoods rallying being extremely racist against anyone who is not Jewish. I keep seeing videos of these settlers invaders who just steal Palestinian homes and lands. You see targetted campaigns against anyone world wide who even dares to speak up against this toxic behavior. This shit has been going on like this for decades now.

    It really really makes me wonder if that state there is such a good idea in the first place.

    And I’m sure I’ll be labeled anti semite for expressing these opinions but that word has lost all its meaning. It used to be something really bad because in WWII Jews were massacred. But what are we supposed to do, say, or think when now, today, 80 something years later, it’s Israel doing the massacring?

    Questions like yours are so extremely disingenuous…









  • Russia would never be able to conquer Europe. It would definitely be able and more importantly, willing, to try and attack it anyway. It still has lots of young and old men it considers useless that its very willing to give up in the meat grinder for this.

    You have to realize that Putin isn’t exactly a normal human being. As far as sociopaths go, I think he’s a big one. And he has an army and nukes.



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    I’m on the take that they’re working together with the US government to limit access to apps that can be useful and aren’t government controlled and aren’t riddles with spyware or would give consumers choice