I run Nextcloud of an NAS appstore. NAS is Asustor Drivestor 4 gen2 - Realtek RTD1619B CPU with 2GB non-expandable DDR4 ram. NAS runs couple of other services like Vaultwarden, Radarr, Sonarr, Uptime Kuma and maybe something else, I dont remember. NAS runs at around 10% CPU and 50% RAM at all times.

Nextcloud isntance is AIO and I have no choice in what type it is. There also are no other good file hosting services but Nextcloud on the app store.

Now the experience: It is slow. Slower than say Google Drive. Login page loads slow but not too slow. I would describe it as sluggish. Like if you run windows 98 file manager on a 5400rpm old drive and you just want to copy couple of files. I went to admin panel and disabled all junk that I will definitely wont run in future. That made it bit faster than before. It works but could be much snappier. Maybe in near future I will move to Opencloud or Owncloud or whatever other services that are similar experience to Nextcloud are.

In my defense, I barely use Nextcloud. It is a nice-to-have option to upload any files that I may find useful to save or/and access later. Therefore, I want to note that sluggishness of Nextcloud doesn’t bother me. But I wish it would be as snappy as Immich is.

I ran nextcloud for years on good hardware and its always been the weakest self hosted app I have. I moved to seafile for a bit and then ultimately owncloud OCIS.

OCIS is a modern app that is massively better since its written with modern languages / frameworks

I’ve been running tge AIO container for several years now and it is running perfectly fine. I only enable whatever I use, so for instance no Collabora.

But for Collabora, while it should be good for single-person use, if you require some kind of collaborative simultaneous work, you should probably set up the high-performance backend. I did this at work for a NC-instance hosted via Hetzner and it works well when we tried it, but we don’t really use those kinds of tools much in our daily work.

Sounds like a DB problem. I had to re-create mine earlier this year because it got corrupted somehow, probably through updates. Some actions spawned hundreds of DB workers and the CPU would be stuck at 100%

Your issue could be a missing index, check the admin settings page and see if it has any advice.

I also found that my files_cache table was missing an index from way back, I had to empty the table and create the index. But the speed boost was insane, it went from painfully slow to almost instant.

Nextcloud is pretty slow in general, but what you’re describing sounds unusual.

For one thing, Nextcloud is written in PHP, so it sets up and tears down its environment for every single request. But PHP has drastically improved over the years, so it’s not that far behind something like Node.

Facebook was originally written in PHP for the Zend engine, and since it was so slow, they forked (or more accurately, reimplemented) it to make HHVM.

Nextcloud still runs on the Zend engine.

Nectcloud has always been incredible slow for me. (And that’s beside other issues like updates failing more often than succeeding…)

And as I was using it mostly for basic filesharing between my machines and as a CalDAV/CardDAV server I replaced it with Syncthing and Radicale now.

How did you set it up? All in one, separate database and redis?

Seeing most of the negative comments here noting bare metal etc.

Moving to the AIO build solved literally every issue I had with the single exception being the colabora office stuff.

For the image stuff, basic file, download etc… been great.

The Android app gives me grief, but I suspect that’s my janky Samsung phone killing it’s permissions.

Considering they only officially support the AIO, it’s worth trying that out before passing full judgement. It has flaws, for sure, but it’s immensely complex and the AIO nullifies many of the variables that they can’t otherwise account for easily.

Speeds weren’t too bad for me, but setting it up was a pain. Even when AIO came out, I spent hours trying to get it right. After several years and tearing it down and rebuilding now and again because something would get messed up, and realizing it was nearly impossible to get it to work with Tailscale instead of a reverse proxy, I decided it was time to throw in the towel. Nextcloud parades itself as a product anyone can use, but in practice it feels like it was meant for enterprise users.

I had tried in the past and optimized the hell out of it, but I found that’s a really slow software. I appreciate the features, but it looks like they have made a really bad foundation, and built some nice features upon it. Seafile is WAY better performance wise! (but less features). Depending on your needs, the best middleground I’ve found is syncthing between my PC and sftpgo to expose webdav / sftp. There is no lighter setup than that.

No, I’ve been trying to get my instance working again with cloudflare tunnel. It was working, then broke and their support forums have been useless. I’m currently looking for a solution to have a self hosted calendar that is publicly available via web for people to view.

If anyone has any recommendations, please send them my way.

I installed AIO on an old machine (retired gaming PC) a few months ago. I use NC notes and file sharing, and have disabled other services I don’t need. It’s running behind a proxy server. It’s worked fine so far. I use Immich for photos though, not Nextcloud. I heard a lot of gripes about Nextcloud for photos.

you arent the only one. I had suck a painful onboarding process with next cloud from the docker setup to the speed of it to the UI that I just gave up and decided to use a combination of immich and syncthing instead.

My install is bare metal, all SSD, redis and php-fpm optimization and I’m extremely happy with the performance. Also use transcoding from an Intel a380 and use Memories for the whole family. Works snappy and flawless. You need to tweak the php settings.