This was originally posted in r/TankieTheDeprogram by firefighter 430 (not the same image though). On reddit the ACP (American Communist Party) is infiltrating subreddits, and tried to infiltrate the tankie one too. Be aware that the ACP is not marxist nor are they communist. Pls stay safe everyone on lemmygrad.
While I do agree with you, it’s important to understand that they aren’t just socially reactionary, but in advocating for ultranationalism within imperialist countries, they are passively also supporting imperialism. There’s a contradiction at play between their anti-imperialism and their ultranationalism, which was the point I tried to highlight.
Their sort of MAGA Communism is ultimately based on ideas like small business, petty bourgeois quasi-socialism, socially reactionary positions, and ultranationalism within the imperial core. They would be bad enough if their only flaw was being socially reactionary, but the fact that they uphold nationalism within the imperial core betrays their supposed anti-imperialism as well, not to mention the incorrect analysis leading to the petite bourgeois focus.
I do appreciate you holding me to a higher standard though, comrade, and I mean that genuinely.
I don’t know that I would use the term “ultranationalism” because that term has a more specific meaning that is not just “strong patriotism”, but yes, this is correct. That is exactly the problem with “patriotism” in the imperial core. This is what I also pointed out in my other comment:
It’s not the patriotism itself, it’s what you’re patriotic for: a reactionary, imperialist, settler-colony that exists on stolen land.
Yes. This is, I think, the proper Marxist critique of their position that we should be focusing on (as well as their reactionary position on social issues and the national question) because it is a glaring contradiction with the Leninist ideas that they claim to support. Lenin was very explicit about pointing out how small-producer economic relations reinforce capitalism and lead to bourgeois thinking.
I believe we are broadly aligned then, just nuances in emphasis. Thanks for explaining your position, I agree.
its comments like these why I joined the grad. this the core of accepting and dealing out criticism to make each other advance both in understanding and as a person that gives me hope of a future that is actually conducive to human development for everyone.
thank you comrades. o7
Same. It’s refreshing to be able to have this level of civil and intelligent conversations in an online space.
Yep! Grad is nice because there’s a good understanding of correct criticism and a common grounding in Marxism-Leninism. It’s an extremely chill space for me that I greatly appreciate for discussion.
Meanwhile on reddit: “100 gorbillion dead in Russia and 40 bazillion killed in the great leap forward.”
Lemmy.world and the other liberal instances too.
We haven’t defederated from them?
Grad doesn’t defederate normally, but .world defederated from us. They can’t see us but we can see them.
Another thing which i greatly appreciate about this place. I don’t support defederation unless it is with an instance that is specifically dedicated to spamming our instance with bots. Otherwise i think the possibility for debate should remain open, so long as there is good moderation keeping everything civil and within reasonable bounds. It’s too bad the lib instances are too afraid of being owned by our facts and logic that they just chicken out and defederate, lol.
Yep, Grad is one of the calmest instances I’ve seen. I spend a good deal of time on Lemmy.ml too, but I go there knowing it’s not really going to be a relaxing time or with high quality discussion.
exactly. I do find that it would be great if more people could understand the need and purpose of all this faster but I also get that the material conditions arent right for that atm. i would be highly interested to see how the grad progressed in the past couple of years in terms of activity and users. that could tell us about how politics affects ML ideological accession.