https://mander.xyz/post/42872387
I received insults
Someone even posted photos of dead bodies
These comments weren’t reviewed, but I was permanently blocked because my political stance is to hope for the reunification of my country. They said I have nothing to offer, just spreading propaganda and negativity.
So you support their reunification with Russia?
Crimea? Via referendum, sure.
I don’t really regard the referendums conducted in the occupied regions of Ukraine to be valid at all.
Do you support Taiwan’s self-determination?
Looool. "Who cares what the people living there think: I, an enlightened westerner, have decided that they are invalid.
I support Taiwanese peoples right to self determination
Are you going to unironically claim that referendums conducted under military occupation by a well known autocratic regime are going to be genuine?
And if they say “We don’t want to be a part of the PRC” would you accept that?
How convenient: any time you don’t like the result of a referendum, just declare that it can’t be trusted.
Yes: unlike you I wouldn’t just declare “well clearly the RoC government just rigged the vote.”
Would you accept if they did choose to be part of the PRC?
Not what I asked you: Are you going to unironically claim that referendums conducted under military occupation by a well known autocratic regime are going to be genuine?
The referendums in the Russian occupied regions were not conducted by Ukraine under any kind of neutral parties observation. Many Ukrainians who lived there had outright fled the regions due to the war, and could not vote - moreover, Russia didn’t even occupy all of the regions they held these referendums in. Moreover, are you normalising and justifying the idea of a state just invading chunks of land and them legitimising their conquest via dodgy referendums?
Yes.
Damn, crazy how there aren’t any referendums from before the Russian invasion. I wonder why not…
Has Taiwan had any referendums conducted by the PRC? Presumably those are the only ones you’d respect.
As opposed to just refusing to hold referendums in the first place?
There also haven’t been any referendums in Wallonia to join France. Or Flanders to join the Netherlands. Or Austria to join Germany. What’s your point?
No, they haven’t. Why would they? The PRC don’t control Taiwan. I fail to see how this comparison makes any sense.
Also, is there a particular reason I should have to respect any referendums organised by Russia?
When did the Zap oblast or Kherson demand referendums?
Is Wallonia obliged to hold a referendum to see if they want to join France? Is Russia “refusing” to hold referendums in Dagestan, Bashkortostan?
Ah, I see you’ve reached the “deliberately playing dumb” stage of bad faith argument.
And Ukraine doesn’t control Donbas, yet you said any referendums have to be overseen by them to be legitimate. But again, you’re playing dumb here.
Damn, really picking and choosing when it comes to “recognizing the right to self determination”
Whataboutism. We are talking about Donbas, which tried to have referendums, only for Ukraine to declare them illegal.
Ah ok, so you support the right to self determination, unless the ruling power says no, then it’s tough luck.