• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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    but their report does contain a total of 718 sources.

    And how many of those sources cite Zenz themselves?

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      Feel free to figure that part out. At a cursory glance, a not-insignificant part was information sourced directly by Amnesty.

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        I have figured it out: many of them. And no, Amnesty did not produce a significant amount of primary evidence. You’re just straight up lying now.

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          I have figured it out: many of them.

          Great! I salute your rigour in the matter. How many of them was it?

          And no, Amnesty did not produce a significant amount of primary evidence. You’re just straight up lying now.

          There are 430 hits for “Amnesty International interview” as sources.

          Who knows, maybe they just interviewed Adrian Zenz for all of those claims. The joke would very much be on me in that case

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            Great! I salute your rigour in the matter. How many of them was it?

            Maybe you should have some rigour yourself, rather than immediately descending into bad faith time wasting.

            There are 430 hits for “Amnesty International interview” as sources.

            And how many interviews does that correspond to? Who was interviewed and what did they actually say? When you strip out all the unsubstantiated Zenz stuff, how much of the story is still left?

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            From the report: This report is a product of field and remote research carried out between October 2019 and May 2021. The report’s findings and conclusions are based on first-hand testimonies that Amnesty International gathered from former detainees of the internment camps and other people who were present in Xinjiang after 2017, as well as from an analysis of satellite imagery and data. The report also draws on testimonial evidence and confidential government documents gathered and analysed by journalists, scholars, and other human rights organizations. One hundred twenty-eight people were interviewed for this report: 55 former detainees of internment camps in Xinjiang (39 men and 16 women), 15 other witnesses who lived in or visited Xinjiang since 2017, and 68 family members of people from Xinjiang who are currently missing or detained. The majority of the interviewees were Kazakh, a minority were Uyghurs, and a small number were Kyrgyz or Han Chinese.

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              as well as from an analysis of satellite imagery and data.

              Wow, that is sneaky: making it sound like the did the analysis themselves, when they actually got it from the right wing military industrial think tank ASPI

              The majority of the interviewees were Kazakh, a minority were Uyghurs

              ???

              Yeah?