1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards
2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
Community Ban
3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
(I have not posted there)
Likewise the community has no rules listed, so I’m not sure how I’ve broken rule 4
Davel is probably going to try to claim me downvoting a post or comment of his that popped up on my feed or something as me breaking the entire instances rule 4 (no spam?) - which is why I need to be banned only from one community I don’t engage in.
Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately, even going so far as to downvote me telling real legitimate antisemites to ‘fuck off’.
Even CowBee had the decency to admit they were in the wrong and change their ragevote to an upvote.
Davel however seems to especially thinskinned even for the typical .ML’er and would rather double down and engage in poorly disguised retaliation bans for criticisms of a political ideology.
This thought terminating behaviour on display by one of the admins of such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml was not at all warranted and I hereby call on the leadership at lemmy.ML to unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community.
Go and look how many hexbear threads you have about our admins and instance, then come back to me.
Anecdotally, I don’t think there’s been nearly as much conflict between Hexbear and dbzer0 as there used to be, and I’ve had good interactions with some of your mods, admins, and users. I’ve also, unfortunately, seen genuine Nazi apologia on dbzer0 protected as “criticizing the soviets,” and this is where the bulk of the remaining conflict stems from. I’ve also seen far more inflammatory posts from dbzer0 users trying to rile up Hexbear users than I have seen the inverse, and I regularly use Hexbear and only occasionally dip into dbzer0 comms.
Whenever someone like OP starts a crusade against “the tankies,” seemingly inevitably resorting to Nazi apologia, equating communists to Nazis, calling for mass violence against communists, etc, it’s entirely reasonable for the communists to be upset at that. There is endless leniance for these types of people here, in my experience, as long as they hide behind “criticizing the soviets.”
My thinking is that if certain ppl really hate hexbear or vice versa, then there’s a simple solution, which is to do everyone a favor and simply ban those particular individuals. Then both instances won’t have constant toxic interactions to deal with, which results in a better experience for everyone. So, I actually think this mod action was probably a YDI, simply because it’s probably the best thing for both parties, though calling it a win/win might be more accurate.
Yeah agreed, in general we get along just fine nowadays when we stick to our own lanes. The hexbears’ who get along with us are largely already here, and vice versa. So this “drama” is mostly just white noise from folks who aren’t regular instance users anyway. It’s an impossible task to keep everyone happy.
This is unnecessary and unhelpful hyperbole imo. Our users are free to criticise the authoritarian tendencies of the former USSR, as well as of modern day Russia and China, and they are completely free to criticise the authoritarian tendencies of western nation states too. Personally, I think it’s more productive to criticise rising fascism in the west, because that is a bigger and more imminent threat, at least where I live. And that is, in fact, the vast majority of stuff I’ve commented on or posted about. But I can also totally understand how someone with different life experiences might be more focused on Russian authoritarianism, or Soviet history or whatever. It’s just not my jam.
Yes, I agree with the general sentiment you are expressing here, if not the phrasing. McCarthyism is resurgent at the moment. A lot of establishment dems are seemingly more worried about the “red peril” than they are about Trump. I talked to one the other day who had never even heard of Joe McCarthy and assumed he was a democrat, lmao. And admittedly there are some anarchists who are also rabidly “anti-tankie”, sometimes to a fault. But hey, this is the internet, and people are gonna argue about pointless stuff all day long.
True, we are lenient about it because many anarchists think the USSR was a brutal authoritarian state that had few redeeming qualities. And while I agree that generations of anti communist propaganda in the west have undoubtedly contributed to that sentiment, we can’t just wish it away. However, I’d say we have to moderate probably 10x more ppl for defending US/western authoritarianism nowadays than we do ppl for defending russian authoritarianism, so I think it’s a bit of a lopsided criticism anyway. I’d like to think we are a fairly lenient instance in general when it comes to moderation, except for a few niche communities.
It might just be a PoV thing. OP, for example, is at a pure “attack on sight” mode with me, but someone like yourself isn’t going to get that same treatment. I think an easy fix is to take comments that advocate mass violence against “the tankies” or otherwise more seriously. You don’t have to make this a left-unity space, it’s entirely in y’all’s right to maintain an anarchist space for anarchists, but from a pure interest in better discussion it’s better to give the few extremely vocal and anti-communist users here a bit of a slap on the wrist when it comes to that.
Again, I’m aware that anarchists usually are fairly negative towards the USSR or other AES examples as they are against all states. It’s when AES is equated to the Nazis that this enters Holocaust trivialization territory, results in users calling for mass violence, etc, and regardless of community rules you’re going to see federated communists come in and push back on that.
I agree that banning is a solution too, I explained why I think OP being banned from the communism comm is actually relatively benign. It’s the same reason I pretty much never go to anarchist-specific spaces, my interactions with dbzer0 are pretty much the occasional times I check in on Lefty Memes or if I see anything going on in this comm, and neither comm is explicitly against Marxist participation.
In short, I think 80% of the struggle comes from 20% of the users (or even 95% from 5%, or 99% and 1%). Slapping them on the wrist a bit more when they get carried away would drastically reduce struggle sessions.
I haven’t seen one in quite a while. There were a bunch around when we started federation because of course there was, there were about every community we federated with as communities started mixing and there was friction. Which makes sense, lots of communities had threads about Hexbear too for the same reason. Last thread about db0 as an instance specifically I can recall you were defending a trans hating Nazi sympathizer, not sure why you’d think a mostly trans instance wouldn’t talk about that. It doesn’t make db0 a special target, we talk about all the trans hating Nazis who hate our existence. We really aren’t that unreasonable when framed like that (ie: correctly). More communities should talk about their transphobic members, it’s good to have that stuff out in the open.
I also don’t recall any of our current admins or mods specifically talking about db0 outside the context of those threads. Possible I missed it but I’m usually pretty tuned in so.
In short, it’s funny how annoying we are to basically the entire fediverse when all we do to deserve the hate is “maybe it’s bad to hate trans people” and “maybe genocide is bad.”
You don’t seem like you’re very tuned in much if you’ve missed all the rest tbh. It’s been way more and none of it has been transphobic (except of course the usual most uncharitable interpretations of hexbears by which there’s nazi transphobes everywhere.)
can’t speak for infamous but generally, not being tuned in to the middle-school crap you wade thru by choice daily speaks to a maturity you have not yet been convinced to strive for.
Oh gawds, I really have every random salty hexbear jumping in to reply to me today. Don’t you have anything better to do than perpetuating middle-school crap?
its not that youve angered me today db0, what angers me about you —and people like you — is your wasted potential. to have the amount of energy you do (i’m jealous) only to waste all of it on ego-driven pursuits makes me wonder if the two human traits are linked somehow, so often do they overlap.
all i can do for solace is prick the soft skin of that over-aired balloon and laugh as you fly around
Right, I’m a “bloated egoist” because I can’t help myself but reply to goading comments. As far as you know, that’s all I do. Nothing else of value has come from my “energy”, at least compared to you and yours. Am I right?
is this true? can you really not help yourself? then not replying to this comment is your first step to becoming your best self. i’ll be sad our time is done, but i’ll be forced to take back my comment on your refusal to grow
I’m autistic. What’s your excuse?
I guess I only tune into things when they’re notable
Indeed, the amount of maldling in hexbear comms about /0 is only exceeded by their pettiness
The amount of
on display here is astounding. I lurk on hexbear all the time and I almost never see people there even mentioning your silly instance. I do remember one exception when a hb mod was calling for defederation, pointing out how much water you carry for rightwingers and fash with some of your anti-communist screeds, but not only was that like over a year ago, that mod isn’t even around anymore, and I’ve seen no one on hexbear mention your instance once since then(it may happen from time to time but it is rare. However every time I see your name or unruffled pop up in my feed, it is always one of you whinging about those evil tankies on hexbear or the meanie tankes on .ml or how “authoritarian” the tankies on lemmygrad are.
I’m not one to “laugh out loud” when I’m reading usually, but your comment above actually made me chuckle a little. It’s just so obviously backwards with reality, how can someone not be embarrassed to say that and so plainly demonstrate how much those ebil tankies live “rent free” in their head?
Oh well if you didn’t see it, it surely hasn’t happened 🙄I’d link you to the half dozen defed, whinge and slop threads but otoh I don’t care nearly as much.
Yeah, I read hexbear every day. I lurk the modlog. I skim for drama. Dbzero shite is simply not something that any hexbears think or care about outside of some few specific incidents where y’all really are just showing everyone your whole ass and thinking you’re righteous. If hexbears had even the slightest fraction of seething towards dbzer0 that y’all have (a few specific mods and users, I think most dbzer0 users are probably fine) against hexbear, I really would be well aware of it. I’m not proud that I would be well aware, that’s an admission on my part that I’m too online (though I do organize irl too). But I would be aware if hexbears ever “malded” about your little anti-tankie instance. Hexbears think you’re embarrassing and worthy of a facepalm but not much else, so sometimes the most wince-worthy things you say get posted to the slop comm. But really none of us actually give a shit about yet another wannabe anarchist site that just ends up sheepdogging users back to liberalism. Not uncommon, sadly. Dime’a’dozen. Like, we have no problem with actual anarchitsts and many of our top posters are anarchists. Meanwhile, much of your reason for your very existence on lemmy is this left-punching, pathetic anti-tankie vendetta cringe. Hell, it’s in your instance sign-up form! All the hollering about “bRiGaDiNg!” in this very thread is more testament to exactly that.
tl;ldr. Stay mad.
They hate us because they can’t shoot us like AuthComs do.
I mean, you’ve defended straight up Nazi apologia just because it was punching left
Nuh-uh
Jesus, you’re worse than Jordenlund
They’ll just claim that since they do it monthly it doesn’t count.