So Gen-Z incel infuencer brought the male loneliness epidemic concept, I understand that for many people loneliness isn’t a blessing, and know that it feel better to sleep in the arm of someone loving you than alone.

However, if I remember my English class, single women were mostly banned from immigrating to the US, and men were the one travelling to the far-west, so I expect a pretty bad gender-ratio, with many single men How was it managed at the time ? Did it led to societal scale problem ?

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    The male loneliness epidemic isn’t only about the lack of romantic relationships.

    It’s about a generalized lack of connection between men and other people, a lack of community where they can find support when times get tough and where they can find meaning by helping others.

    I’m not too savy on the social context in the far west, but I’d wager that although there was a lack of women the relationships between men would be very strong. Since the environment is hostile to human presence (lack of water, infrastructure, no large settlement or very far apart at least in the beginning) men would need to rely on others for help very often.

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      Part of the problem, that I’ve personally witness, is groups/communities that form male social cohesion get attacked. They are considered wrong and bad for not including women, and therefore they must be evil.

      So men are basically damned if they do, and damned if they don’t.

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        To be fair, as a man who naturally interacts with other men, most guys when left to their own groups become very toxic/sexist in the long run.

        This isn’t any inherent flaw of men, it’s a natural outcome of the influence social media puts on men through algorithms.

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          So if we leave women alone in groups do they become very toxic/sexist?

          Or are you just bying into a false belief that men can’t be decent unless women are involved?

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            Did you read the whole comment?

            This isn’t an inherent flaw of man. Economic conditions are getting worse for most people (western pov) and women rights have been scapegoated for it.

            Naturally, men who don’t know better will turn on women for this reason and when left isolated in their own groups they will reinforce their bubble.

            People can be incredibly decent, but under the wrong social/economic context act incredibly inappropriately.

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        4 days ago

        Makes a lot of sense. If I (an urban dweller) moved to the middle of nowhere and have to help build up all infrastructure while attempting to (barely) survive, I’d be pretty depressed.