• gattonero2001@lemmygrad.ml
    41·
    5 days ago

    I condemn Maduro for not executing both Guaido and Machado for treason when he had the chance. The “evil dictator” treats his enemies with silk gloves…

  • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
    151·
    5 days ago

    “Democratically elected” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. The election process for all of them was very questionable.

    • darkernations@lemmygrad.ml
      46·
      5 days ago

      How very White of you.

      I wonder if there’s any evidence what will convince you. By this point if you know you have been lied about every war since WWII but still decide to believe narratives of the US empire against its designated enemies you ain’t brainwashed; just bootlickingly racist.

      I mean you could make a choice to investigate today why what you said was murderously bigoted but chances are high you won’t.

      I wonder why.

      The white conservatives aren’t friends of the Negro either, but they at least don’t try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the “smiling” fox. - Malcolm X

      You have 4.5 million in children in poverty, torture and imprison those against British war crimes, have successive governments arm, fund and give political cover to an ongoing genocide. Either you don’t live in a democracy of the masses or you do and the people are culpable of its state’s war crimes. Maybe go hoist a genocidal flag up a street lamp to maintain that national self esteem while people can’t pay for heating, food or see their GP. Must be all those immigrants’ fault that prop up what remains of your NHS or the asylum seekers who flee your country’s destruction abroad (sanctions, wars, coups, IMF economic racketeering etc).

      Remember, the workers’ of the Global South don’t depend on you, you depend on them. And that tap of superexploitation is slowly turning off which is why your cost of living is going through the roof. Until you truly reckon with what it means to be a Westerner, what that class means on the global stage, whaf that parasitic relationship with the rest of the world, you will always be the fascism enabler that you nominially claim to be against.

      https://www.jrf.org.uk/child-poverty

      If you’re actually interested in changing:

      Against Empire - Michael Parenti

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=3qFA0-wo3pg

    • Nocturne Dragonite@lemmygrad.ml
      38·
      5 days ago

      There were international observers but I’m sure you missed that part. The opposition didn’t get enough support so they threw a tantrum and sat out the elections, but I’m sure you also missed that part too.

      Seems like the propaganda is doing a lot of heavy lifting for you, no need to use your brain.

    • ICBM@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      39·
      5 days ago

      Based on what? What Gusano-fucking-Rubio told you to think? Based on what Bibi-I’m-doing-a-genocide-Netanyahu told you to think? Based on the US/Israel-backed-foreign-agent “opposition” told to think?

      Do you REALLY think Juan Guaido was democratically elected?

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmygrad.ml
      40·
      5 days ago

      The same people telling you Maduro stole the election were saying Biden stole 2020. It’s all consent manufacturing to sieze Venezuelan oil and colonize it.

      • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
        130·
        5 days ago

        It’s recorded fact that he’s barred his political opponents from taking part in elections against him, and made moves to remove the Venezuelan citizenship of others. It’s widely regarded as the least democratic country in South America by a significant margin.

        I’ve tried to link sources which would NOT be the same people saying Biden stole 2020.

        The democracy in Venezuela is a sham. That doesn’t mean the US should kidnap the President.

        • ICBM@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
          44·
          5 days ago

          Bro, the us literally couped Venezuela multiple times. Go hear it from the mouth of John Bolton or Trump himself since they’ve both admitted it.

          Those “opposition” members are foreign agents funded and controlled by the US. That Machado witch begged Israel to militarily invade Venezuela.

          To be honest, Chavez and Maduro should have had them all shot. I would have. If anything Maduro is too kind to the “opposition”.

        • freagle@lemmy.mlEnglish
          34·
          5 days ago

          What are you even talking about “widely regarded as the least democratic country in South America”. Bro, have you heard of El Salvador?

          But also, liberals cannot fathom any form of democracy beyond voting for the widest range of candidates possible. You all literally believe that Nazis and traitors being on the ballot is more democratic and nothing could be more democratic.

          Newsflash, democracy means GOVERNING by the people. Did you know that 70% of elections in the USA are uncontested? Real fucking democratic.

          Venezuela went through land reform and farm collectivization. There are widespread and large scale participatory structures throughout Venezuelan society from communes to citizen militias and many things in between.

          Venezuela is considered undemocratic by the usual suspects, for all the usual cynical reasons. Nationalizing oil fields has always attracted claims of dictatorship. The US and UK overthrew Iran’s elected leader for nationalizing their oil fields.

          Stop parroting the bullshit and actually look into the situation with the knowledge that the entire Western world is engaged in a 25-year-long propaganda war against Venezuela.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmygrad.ml
          28·
          5 days ago

          It’s entirely unsurprising that pro-imperialist Statesian and European institutions are claiming Venezuela is undemocratic because private capital can’t freely plunder their oil. The democracy in Venezuela is legitimate, and perpetuating the idea that it isn’t is legitimizing the imperialist narrative.

        • ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml
          17·
          5 days ago

          It’s recorded fact that he’s barred his political opponents

          👆 That link is broken btw

          It’s widely regarded as the least democratic country in South America by a significant margin.

          A document from the freaking European parliament. Whose own sources to justify their “measure” of how democratic a country is are V-Dem, Freedom House, the CATO Institute and BTI Project. Only the highest quality propaganda unbiased sources I see.

          Here’s a crazy idea! How about you try getting information on how democratic a country is from the peoples living there instead of frecking EU politicians?

    • cornishon@lemmygrad.ml
      18·
      5 days ago

      The Venezuelan elections were monitored by 800 international observers and the vast vast majority of them saw nothing suspicious (the few that did were coincidentally on US State Department payroll). Venezuela also has one of the most well safeguarded electoral process in the world.

      Also the opposition literally cries electoral fraud in every single election they lose, but had no issues in the two instances they won.

      And they don’t really do that for the domestic audience, it’s purely for the western media. Case in point, after establishing multiple (contradicting) websites supposedly demonstrating the electoral fraud, they didn’t even bother showing up for a commission set up in Venezuela were they were to present their “evidence”.