• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    21 hours ago

    Hamas committed genocide on October 7, 2023. If you support Hamas, you support genocide.

    Anyone with half a brain can see the genocidal actions of Hamas does not benefit the Palestinian people. They only get Palestinian people killed and produce propaganda for their own profit. If you support Hamas, you want more Palestinians to die.

    A non-violent resistance movement is the only feasible path to Palestinian statehood. The existence of Hamas means it can’t be a non-violent resistance. If you support Hamas, you’re against Palestinian statehood.

    Support of Hamas means you’re someone in denial that Hamas lost, you’re in denial that Hamas has been objectively bad for the Palestinian people. Your hatred doesn’t make you stronger, it only makes you stupid. Hamas and others dominated by hate will continue to lose endlessly because they’re too stupid to accomplish anything other than destruction. You feel like hatred will make you strong enough to destroy your enemies. Look at Tel Aviv. Look at Gaza. What has the hatred of Hamas really destroyed?

    The Nazis were hateful people that lost a war and were objectively bad for the German people. Today only losers identify as Nazis. Supporting Hamas at this point is no different. Hamas is objectively bad for the Palestinian people, and they are losers. Modern day Nazis will say it’s about pride or whatever, but we all know they’re losers that only have hatred and nothing else. Same goes for Hamas. It’s identifying losers that didn’t accomplish anything other than the destruction of their own city and the deaths of their own people.

    If you support Hamas you’re a stupid loser that doesn’t have anything other than hatred. That’s why you don’t get invited to nice parties. You’re full of hatred and denial that’s what makes you losers.

    • Javi@feddit.uk
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      17 hours ago

      The irony of comparing hamas to Nazis whilst there is a much better candidate for comparison, bombing children and hospitals in the name of killing hamas members is laughable.

      Hamas has been gaining support due to the fact that they are the only ones willing to stand up to the nazis that have so far, killed 50,000 children, and laugh about doing so.

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        6 hours ago

        Read some history. Canada actually bombed a children’s hospital in WWII. They missed their target you see. The children’s hospital was built a little to close to a target with strategic value. You might be able to find the vitriol spewed by Guering (or maybe it was Goebels, Nazis are all alike) over the incident.

        No one thinks much of it now. The Nazis were clearly the aggressor, and bombs miss their targets sometimes. It was a horrible event to be sure, but an event that wouldn’t have happened if it weren’t for the Nazis going on some insane campaign to restore the ethnic makeup of the region to how it was in the history books. What’s the goal of Hamas again?

        There was a clear act that initiated the Israel-Hamas war (October 7), Hamas was clearly the aggressor. The casualty rate is consistent with similar military urban combat operations. And, need I remind you again? None of it would’ve happened if Hamas hadn’t massacred villages and taken hostage.

        Hamas did horrible things, and initiated a war which they lost. Check the news. Iran, the backer of Hamas is on the ropes.

        In the future do you want to be some loser that claims “actually Hamas was in the right” the same way losers say “actually the Nazis had some good points”? Gonna be a person that points out the allies did some bad things in WWII to try to prove “actually the allies were worse than the Nazis.” That’s what the future is for Hamas supporters.

        You’re in a bubble right now where you aren’t hearing about how horrible Hamas is. Iran had a big part to play in creating that bubble, similar to how Russia created a bubble where Ukraine started the war with Russia. With what’s going on right now, what are you going to do when that bubble is no longer being inflated by a nation state? Will you admit you were wrong, or will you be a loser that continues to pretend past genocidal losers were the good guys?

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          I’m aware that Canadians have done some absolutely deplorable stuff; so much so that they were considered savages in world war 2 for their brutality towards POWs; the whole Canadian nice guy routine is fairly new to the world stage. Of course us Brits have a bloodied and nasty history too, I’m not attempting to throw stones or anything like that, just highlighting the fact that I’m aware of Canada’s brutality in the name of peacekeeping rather than blinded by the ‘west is best’ rhetoric we’ve all been spoonfed growing up.

          Does any of that mean that I think Hamas are the ones committing genocide, and that Israel are justified in their now 2 year genocide of Palestinians? Ofcourse not. My thoughts on the subject remain the same. Hamas are the only ones standing up for a people who have faced oppression from Israel long before they faced an active genocidal campaign. I don’t think they were justified in killing 54 people 2 years ago; I also don’t think killing 54 people justifies the systemic extermination of an entire country.

          E2A: most Western media is owned by Zionists or allies of Zionists; if anything, we hear nothing but how justified Israel’s continued genocide is. It’s also why we see things like people protesting Israel in the west being silenced. Its laughable to suggest Iran have any sway in Western media, and are somehow rewriting the narrative, when the opposite is clearly true.

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      20 hours ago

      Wait let me check the definition of genocide real quick

      Ok, let me see

      Yep, definitely a genocide, mhm

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        19 hours ago

        Hamas’ genocide is only limited by their capability, not by their intent.

        Do you honestly think they were keeping count on that day and were like “whoah, we’re over 1000 we better stop!” Or do you think if they were capable of killing 1000 more people they would have? If they were capable of killing a million Jews, do you think they would?

        Let’s not be naive, Hamas would kill every Jew if they could. The only reason they don’t is because they are opposed. If you support Hamas, you don’t think they should be opposed in their goals. Which means you want genocide. Hamas supporters are genocide supporters.

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          Yeah genocide is not about the actual harm you do in the real world, it’s about the harm you would have wanted to do if you could. According to this commenter’s speculation of how much you would have wanted it.

          What a great definition. Are you fucking stoned or something?