• Skavau@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    3 hours ago

    Well at very high downvote rates, you simply can’t downvote anymore. It’s a mitigation against downvote trolling. There is also a hidden reputation score for instance admins which logs how much you also get downvoted.

    • doben@lemmy.wtf
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      3 hours ago

      Why am I forced to have certain voting patterns in order to be accepted as a trustworthy community member? That‘s arbitrarily authoritarian in order to subdue deviant behaviour without good reason or explanation before engaging in said community, which ux design displays up- and downvoting in the same manner? I‘m not being warned of such consequences for this arbitrary branding rule. Is excessive upvoting branded, as well? If so, in which way? If not, why not? It‘s dumb, that‘s what I‘m getting at.

      • Skavau@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        3 hours ago

        You’re talking about attitude here, not reputation. Two different things.

        Unfortunately you went into a partisan community a few months ago to argue with them and got heavily downvoted for it. That’s reputation.

        • doben@lemmy.wtf
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          2 hours ago

          I do this regularly. The „unfortunately“ part is not something I am willing to take ownership of and see it as a weakness of the platform. I also tend to be controversial in .world communities and I detest software that‘s trying to force me to behave in certain ways that are neither transparent, nor neutral in their judgment of my commentary.

          That’s the same for up- and downvote balance. it’s bullshit. be it attitude or reputation.

          • Skavau@piefed.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 hours ago

            I do this regularly. The „unfortunately“ part is not something I am willing to take ownership of and see it as a weakness of the platform.

            I meant “unfortunately” in the specific context of the what’s happening here. I accept that it is somewhat of a problem here, but 9 times out of 10 - people who have been downvoted heavily tend to be trolls and spammers.

    • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 hours ago

      Wait the user downvoting gets blocked or the user constantly downvoted? If downvotes are such an issue then disabling them would be better right?

      • Skavau@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 hours ago

        The mass downvoter gets their ability to downvote blocked.

        If downvotes are such an issue then disabling them would be better right?

        Downvoting isn’t considered inherently anti-social. It ensures that people use downvotes (or are more likely to do so) with the spirit of the system in-mind - off-topic content, trolling, spamming, etc. That said, I would simply disattach it and make it implementable at the instance level myself personally.

          • Skavau@piefed.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 hours ago

            True. I suppose you could get to that reputation. Maybe it also accounts for time between each downvote. So I can imagine someone who doesn’t upvote but occasionally downvotes, and downvotes in a fair way. I don’t think they should get penalised. Perhaps it already accounts for this as someone like that is obviously very different than a spam-downvoter.

            • goferking (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              2 hours ago

              Would have to go through the code but most likely just ratio of up to down

              Nvm didn’t need to as it’s part of their join description

              https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/

              Find people who downvote too much

              Once an account has made a few votes, an “attitude” is calculated each time they vote which is the percentage of up votes vs. down votes.

              People who downvote more than upvote tend to be the ones who get in fights a lot and say snarky, inflammatory and negative things. If you were at a dinner party, would you want them around? By reviewing the list of people with bad attitudes you can make decisions about who you want to be involved in our communities.

              All these accounts have been downvoting a lot (Attitude column) and receiving some downvotes (Rep column). Their profiles are worth a look and then making a decision about whether they’re bringing down the vibe or not.

              • Skavau@piefed.social
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                2 hours ago

                I can throw it to Rimu, although I imagine the amount of users that truly only occasionally downvote (and never upvote) are pretty rare.