• Skavau@piefed.social
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    Point is still this method is essentially shadow banning those being downvoted constantly. There are times it can be trolls but going against the grain in certain instances could get them hidden for simply saying what others don’t want to hear. Especially when political topic.

    I agree. Although mostly, 9 times out of 10 its low-effort trolls and spammers that get that. Also it doesn’t really hide anything, it’s just a warning sign.

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      it’s just a warning sign

      For now.

      Although mostly, 9 times out of 10 its low-effort trolls and spammers that get that

      Or in a political environment, or a targeted campaign by instances because someone isn’t pure enough.

      It’s even again in the welcome doc

      The ‘Rep’ column is their reputation. As you can see, some people have been downvoted thousands of times. They’re not going to change their ways, are they?

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        For now.

        I see no reason why it would ever change to do anything more than that.

        Or in a political environment, or a targeted campaign by instances because someone isn’t pure enough.

        If that happened, we would look into it and likely bring it up to the fediverse.

        Also, downvoters like that tend to get instance banned meaning they can’t maintain it.

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          Because it always starts small then escalates

          downvoters like that tend to get instance banned meaning they can’t maintain it.

          Only if they’re downvoting those the admins of the instance like

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            Because it always starts small then escalates

            Escalates to what.

            Only if they’re downvoting those the admins of the instance like

            I meant banned from other instances as much as I did home-instance banned. But I’d also add that instances that tolerate and endorse the mass indiscriminate downvoting of other people off-instance would possibly find themselves defederated as well.

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              To entirely automated banning or hidding accounts.

              They should but again if it’s downvoting things the admin dislikes already they won’t care.

              The point is piefed built in a system people can and will game

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                To entirely automated banning or hidding accounts.

                I would oppose that, and I doubt Rimu would do that.

                They should but again if it’s downvoting things the admin dislikes already they won’t care.

                Then the instance would find itself defederated I suspect.

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                    This is the system he’s building and saying he wants!

                    I haven’t seen Rimu say he wants to bring in automatic bans or hiding of accounts who reach a reputational threshold.

                    Defederated because they downvote what the admins already hate.??

                    Defederated from other instances. The admin’s instance would be defederated by other instances for supporting it.