We empower people to leave MAGA and tell their stories. We foster reconciliation with friends and family. We develop movement leaders to help others leave. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zJl1lBGMUw&t=15sA Message from our Founder Meet the People Leaving MAGA Steve Vilchez Illinois Read His Story Erica Roach New York Read Her Story Justin Yu California Read His Story Deanna
Having said that, let me play devil’s advocate for a second.
A very simple point: we still have to live with these people. They’re our neighbors, our families, “friends” and co-workers. Is it wise to hate them all forever? We still have to live with them, we can’t “simply kill” every Republican in the country (as many magas would like for all the Democrats) as it’s dozens of millions
These people are not victims, but they have been misled brainwashed by literally decades of Republican propaganda through Fox News and others. The US government allowed that. For decades. Fox News suing to be able to lie as a news organization should never have passed, but it did. Citizens United effectively ended your democracy, it should never have passed. But it did.
I think this is like the Stanford prison experiment. Some became prisoners, others guards, but all played by the rules set by those in control
I think our hatred should be reserved for those that really caused all this shit, not your every day maga. Republican law makers (on federal, state, and local levels) caused this. Billionaires funded all of this for their own gains. Those are the ones that should be locked up forever, those are the real Nazis. Take ALL possessions and money away from all billionaires and the setup a hard cap of 1-10 million dollars, anyone having a networh of over that gets 100% tax on their income untill they’re below again
No more millionaires no more people with the single handed power to fuck over a country for their own gains
Then require news organizations and journalists to always be truthful, by law. Fund them from an independent foundation that only cares about factual news
Then you’ll have to rebuild your democracy from the ground up. American elections are a shit show, and have been since WWII. Get a parliamentary democracy, get rid of your presidents
Hell, while at it, let’s end super powers. Right now is a great time for that. Russia is on its last legs before death, the US is shooting itself in the face multi times now, and China is about to feel the real force of the demographics freight train hat is about to hit it. Split all super powers up into small states, te US included, with it’s 50 states. Form a United nations with teeth that can smack any non democratic government down as replace it with democracy world wide.
Sounds like a pipe dream? Maybe, but its better than eternal hate
I honestly don’t give a fuck ay this point. I don’t want to live with these fuckers they should hanged for what they did to this country and are still doing. They are sadists fuck that want to inflicted as much pain and suffering to the populace as possible.
You can play the devil advocate all you like, but to me this a virus that needs to be destroyed. Magas and Republicans were right Democrats and people apolitical will lie down when it comes to fighting for what is right and it will be a bloodless civil war on their side not on the regular folks side.
Let’s continue letting the rot spread just like we let the “south will rise” fuck boys from the civil war. Let’s not learn from our past mistakes, maybe this time it’ll be different.
Not what I’m saying. I’m not saying that we should allow them to continue being Nazi or Confederate wannabees.
I’m saying we can’t continue with hatred.
In the end we still need to make a living for ourselves, together in cities and all, and we can’t do that if everyone hates each other, for good reasons or not.
You can’t either suggest we execute 70+ million people, not really practical and, you know, not really ethical as well and I fucking guarantee you that that will only breed even more hatred and violence. That sort of attitude will push the US into a civil war and then everyone loses everything. Thought Minnesota this week was bad? Wait until New York is the next Sarajevo. That is a potential future, and I’d think you don’t want that.
But you gotta stop hating man. I fully gettit, I get the feeling, I have it myself but I also understand that tomorrow when this is over we still HAVE to live together
Only alternative I see so far is to break the US up into 50 states (this should happen anyways, same with Russia and China btw, no more super powers, fuck them) and these states likely will split on the red/blue line. Red states likely will turn into theocratic third world dictator banana republics that will barely be able to feed their own population, while the blue states, liberated from the dead weight, will flourish.
I’m guessing that is more up your alley, this will allow the magas to just wallow in their own shit-stan republic states and you won’t have to deal with them anymore
That kind of shit is how we ended up here in the first place. Trying to make peace with the south instead of wiping them from the planet allowed them to come back stronger, like a virus you didn’t take all your medicine for.
How about we don’t advocate for the fucking devil, when the devil doesn’t even have a charming British accent, or fight crime–he’s just a fat racist asshole who wants you dead in the apocalypse.
Maybe. I’m sure most of their concerns have a legitimate root, before they branch off into lala land. But how do you help them see the light where their twisted logic detours down the path of hatred and racism?
People tried. They tried and gave up. I have a hard enough time talking with my brother who always insisted he wasn’t either maga or conservative (but those dark skinned people and unions, dei to blame for everything)
I will never forgive or help these people. Fuck them.
I very much understand you anfd feel you
Having said that, let me play devil’s advocate for a second.
A very simple point: we still have to live with these people. They’re our neighbors, our families, “friends” and co-workers. Is it wise to hate them all forever? We still have to live with them, we can’t “simply kill” every Republican in the country (as many magas would like for all the Democrats) as it’s dozens of millions
These people are not victims, but they have been
misledbrainwashed by literally decades of Republican propaganda through Fox News and others. The US government allowed that. For decades. Fox News suing to be able to lie as a news organization should never have passed, but it did. Citizens United effectively ended your democracy, it should never have passed. But it did.I think this is like the Stanford prison experiment. Some became prisoners, others guards, but all played by the rules set by those in control
I think our hatred should be reserved for those that really caused all this shit, not your every day maga. Republican law makers (on federal, state, and local levels) caused this. Billionaires funded all of this for their own gains. Those are the ones that should be locked up forever, those are the real Nazis. Take ALL possessions and money away from all billionaires and the setup a hard cap of 1-10 million dollars, anyone having a networh of over that gets 100% tax on their income untill they’re below again
No more millionaires no more people with the single handed power to fuck over a country for their own gains
Then require news organizations and journalists to always be truthful, by law. Fund them from an independent foundation that only cares about factual news
Then you’ll have to rebuild your democracy from the ground up. American elections are a shit show, and have been since WWII. Get a parliamentary democracy, get rid of your presidents
Hell, while at it, let’s end super powers. Right now is a great time for that. Russia is on its last legs before death, the US is shooting itself in the face multi times now, and China is about to feel the real force of the demographics freight train hat is about to hit it. Split all super powers up into small states, te US included, with it’s 50 states. Form a United nations with teeth that can smack any non democratic government down as replace it with democracy world wide.
Sounds like a pipe dream? Maybe, but its better than eternal hate
I honestly don’t give a fuck ay this point. I don’t want to live with these fuckers they should hanged for what they did to this country and are still doing. They are sadists fuck that want to inflicted as much pain and suffering to the populace as possible.
You can play the devil advocate all you like, but to me this a virus that needs to be destroyed. Magas and Republicans were right Democrats and people apolitical will lie down when it comes to fighting for what is right and it will be a bloodless civil war on their side not on the regular folks side.
Let’s continue letting the rot spread just like we let the “south will rise” fuck boys from the civil war. Let’s not learn from our past mistakes, maybe this time it’ll be different.
Not what I’m saying. I’m not saying that we should allow them to continue being Nazi or Confederate wannabees.
I’m saying we can’t continue with hatred.
In the end we still need to make a living for ourselves, together in cities and all, and we can’t do that if everyone hates each other, for good reasons or not.
You can’t either suggest we execute 70+ million people, not really practical and, you know, not really ethical as well and I fucking guarantee you that that will only breed even more hatred and violence. That sort of attitude will push the US into a civil war and then everyone loses everything. Thought Minnesota this week was bad? Wait until New York is the next Sarajevo. That is a potential future, and I’d think you don’t want that.
But you gotta stop hating man. I fully gettit, I get the feeling, I have it myself but I also understand that tomorrow when this is over we still HAVE to live together
Only alternative I see so far is to break the US up into 50 states (this should happen anyways, same with Russia and China btw, no more super powers, fuck them) and these states likely will split on the red/blue line. Red states likely will turn into theocratic third world dictator banana republics that will barely be able to feed their own population, while the blue states, liberated from the dead weight, will flourish.
I’m guessing that is more up your alley, this will allow the magas to just wallow in their own shit-stan republic states and you won’t have to deal with them anymore
That kind of shit is how we ended up here in the first place. Trying to make peace with the south instead of wiping them from the planet allowed them to come back stronger, like a virus you didn’t take all your medicine for.
Wenmightnneed to consider the last time someone was a power to “slap down” democracies.
How about we don’t advocate for the fucking devil, when the devil doesn’t even have a charming British accent, or fight crime–he’s just a fat racist asshole who wants you dead in the apocalypse.
Maybe. I’m sure most of their concerns have a legitimate root, before they branch off into lala land. But how do you help them see the light where their twisted logic detours down the path of hatred and racism?
People tried. They tried and gave up. I have a hard enough time talking with my brother who always insisted he wasn’t either maga or conservative (but those dark skinned people and unions, dei to blame for everything)
That is the spirit. That makes us lose.
Oh yes let’s have the reconstruction just like the civil war. Let that hate breed and hope for the rise of the South hatred again.
America we love to fuck ourselves over and over. Yay.
You’re not going to kill hate with guns. Haven’t you learned anything from the War on Terror?
Reconstruction failed because we didn’t finish it. You want examples of how it was supposed to work look at Germany and Japan.
Germany, notably free of Nazi influences right now…
Something we inflicted them with, again.
If you lose to hate, it doesn’t matter who wins. You’ll be living with the same atrocities.
Don’t confuse lack of hate with passivity. Face the pain, grow, and take the power.