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Salamence@lemmy.zip to Memes@lemmy.mlEnglish · 3 days ago

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  • KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml
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    In the most abstract sense: Is organisation without authority possible?

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      In a concrete sense, yes

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        No it’s not https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/10/authority.htm

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          What appeals to you about that text?

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            How authority is defined and how Engels actually logically provides an answer to the question whether organization without authority is possible

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              A short ‘logical’ essay can give any answer in an abstract sense, but that doesn’t discount empirical examples.

              Always seemed to me like Engels begs the question, takes “anarchy = chaos” as a starting assumption.

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                Empirical examples… that you have not provided?

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                  It’s trivially easy to think of examples of “organisation without authority” in nature, in history, in software.

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                    Provide a trivially easy example that you can think of (in the concrete sense) and let’s examine it together

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                    Such as?

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