After immigrants are detained by ICE, there are probably records somewhere of who has an attorney, and who is calling family members or an attorney.

For the immigrants who aren’t calling any family or lawyers, the poorest of the poor, people with little to no connection to anyone, who may not even say which country they are from, if the administration were actually trying to kill as many disconnected immigrants as possible in secret, would society know?

For example, if the administration was composed of all types of conservative people, but 30 percent were secretly Nazis or wanted racial genocide, could there be a campaign to not just remove, but kill, immigrants, and the public doesn’t find out?

  • f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    43·
    19 hours ago

    Does anyone know the whereabouts of any of the 1200 detainees at “Alligator Alcatraz Auschwitz”, the prison camp that suddenly disappeared?

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
      61·
      10 hours ago

      Despite the best efforts of the Biden administration, there were still more than 1000 children who were victims of Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller’s Family Separation Policy who had not been reunited with their families, and likely never will be. I tried to find out what happened to those kids, and couldn’t find anything, and nobody seems to be looking for them.

      I suspect that the pretty ones have been sold into sex slavery, the compliant ones are house slaves, and the rest were sent on nature hikes in the Everglades.

      And they’re doing it all again. Splitting up families, and gathering the kids together. Few people have less ability to resist avarice than Trump. After his long, close friendship with Epstein, nobody is more aware of the fact that few products are as valuable among the wealthy as a pretty teenage girl, and without Epstein around, the International Oligarch Pedophile Circuit needs a new leader, and Trump is in the perfect position to supply as much product as the market demands.

      I highly doubt he can resist the urge; he certainly hasn’t shown any past inclination to reign in his worst impulses.

    • someone@lemmy.todayOP
      3·
      10 hours ago

      My concern is that there is enough documentation on who isn’t calling people, who has no connection to anyone…

      If there were racist genocidal people within the system and they were able to recognize each other (via tattoos, memberships) and then assign each other to certain duties, if certain people were put into cargo planes and dumped over the ocean, I’m not sure anyone would know.

      It’s very hard for detainees to communicate with anyone in places like that if the detainee doesn’t have money or anyone willing to accept a call. If someone who was a racist genocidal person was put in charge of putting people into groups (based on lawyers, family contact, etc), people who were completely disconnected could be put into a unique group, put in a certain part of a facility, and flown in cargo planes together.

      I just don’t know how likely this is. CECOT is a facility that holds people in a way that many international organizations would consider torture. If people were being killed in there, including people deported by the USA, I am very sure people would not know.

      If we don’t know where 1200 people who were previously detained have gone as a society, and if there’s no record of where they were sent, it’s hard to fathom the state didn’t kill them, although I don’t know.

      I’m very ignorant on all of this. 25% was just a randomly chosen number. But what about 10% or 5%? I just don’t entirely understand the purpose of making immigrants being deported untrackable unless the point is to make it easier to kill them, because if the purpose was just to make it harder to legally contest deportation, the system could just be very slow but have slow tracking built into it… but it doesn’t have that, right? I really don’t know the answers to any of this.

    • moonshadow@slrpnk.net
      16·
      16 hours ago

      This is what I came here to post, and no! There’s ~50 billion in fresh funding burning a hole in ICE’s pocket, purchase orders for camps very much including infrastructure for the handling of remains, and published quotas impossible to meet any other way though!

      To be precise: there is no record of what happened to ~1600 of the “detainees” who went through that camp. They were booked in but not out. Not held, released, or deported. Just gone.