• TheRealKuni@piefed.social
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    5 hours ago

    These people live in a bubble. That’s their line because they don’t see that other stuff, or when they do they see it through a very specific framing.

    They were manipulated. We should be thrilled when they wake up, not berating them for not waking up sooner.

    • Hanrahan@slrpnk.net
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      3 hours ago

      They were manipulated.

      If I applied that argument to drunk drivers you’d be as forgiving ?

      That aside, we’re all manipulated, it’s relegions resson de entre for example, but why wern’t they manipulated by people kindness, togetherness etc ? 80% literally dont care about good and evil.

      Kurt Vonnegut, on Susan Sontag

      She was asked what she had learned from the Holocaust, and she said that 10 percent of any population is cruel, no matter what, and that 10 percent is merciful, no matter what, and that the remaining 80 percent could be moved in either direction.

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        3 hours ago

        “Raison d’etre”

        (Not sure if you didn’t know or were just betrayed by auto"correct")

    • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      They were manipulated. We should be thrilled when they wake up, not berating them for not waking up sooner.

      Sure. At an arms length.

      Just because a lot of people have come out to say they regret their vote let’s see what these same people do in November. If they just carry on with the status quo of “Yeah, I know I regret voting for Trump two years ago, but I’ll still vote for the party that supports him”, they should not be forgiven. We should not be thrilled they “woke up” because they didn’t. Their tiny peanut brain had a quick surge of reality where Trump might be a bigoted piece of shit but they’ll still gleefully vote for every member of Congress and The Senate who tows the Trump line because they’re too stupid to realize the gravity of the whole thing.

      It’s truly amazing to me how I’m Canadian and I understand the US Government more than the majority of Americans, apparently.