Fuck Discord is the common message now, but how about we amplify good alternatives? It’ll be easier to tell Discord to fuck off if we’re already set to move elsewhere.
Stoat chat is still and likely always will be a flaming pile of mismanaged trash.
Matrix doesn’t actually support the features people actually use discord for. It’s a great alterative to teams or business communications but as a discord alterative it’s fucking awful.
Keep in mind everyone that Stoat still doesn’t currently protect it’s users information and is centralized. It doesn’t use encryption but it is very seamless.
You can host your own Stoat instance but it doesn’t communicate with the main one.
The devs have said they plan to add more security features in the future yet still don’t make it a priority. The host of Stoat should be able to see everyone’s messages, including in DM’s, due to the lack of E2E encryption.
Once they add more security features I imagine they will be much more popular in general.
If I understand correctly, they recently rebuilt all of the voice/video stuff. Video should be coming soon, it’s more of a resourcing issue for their servers.
I looked at self hosting, but it’s a bit of a mess currently.
The main thing I will miss from discord is the ease of streaming with a small group of friends. That was main reason we chose it over alternatives back in the day.
Discord has made communicating with a small group of friends who moved to different cities stay in touch daily while playing games, chatting in voice, and streaming stuff to share. Voice and text are great, but the streaming is how we share the in game moments we used to be able to see in person.
Fuck Discord is the common message now, but how about we amplify good alternatives? It’ll be easier to tell Discord to fuck off if we’re already set to move elsewhere.
Alternatives
Stoat chat is still and likely always will be a flaming pile of mismanaged trash.
Matrix doesn’t actually support the features people actually use discord for. It’s a great alterative to teams or business communications but as a discord alterative it’s fucking awful.
I see rocket chat is used by the US Army and Air Force.
Not sure how secure that is.
And Mattermost is used by the US Air Force and Space Force, so same issue
Keep in mind everyone that Stoat still doesn’t currently protect it’s users information and is centralized. It doesn’t use encryption but it is very seamless.
You can host your own Stoat instance but it doesn’t communicate with the main one.
The devs have said they plan to add more security features in the future yet still don’t make it a priority. The host of Stoat should be able to see everyone’s messages, including in DM’s, due to the lack of E2E encryption.
Once they add more security features I imagine they will be much more popular in general.
In my view, security isn’t a feature, it’s a design choice.
I have no ill wishes towards Stoat, but I’ve never seen a developer convincingly implement security after the fact.
Teamspeak, Mumble? These were popular for gaming communities, not sure what happened to these apps
I looked in stoat’s issue tracker and there is an issue asking for video chat which is 5 years old and still open. Safe to say it’s a dead project.
Matrix is mature enough, and has a better philosophy. Just the best choice atm.
If I understand correctly, they recently rebuilt all of the voice/video stuff. Video should be coming soon, it’s more of a resourcing issue for their servers.
I looked at self hosting, but it’s a bit of a mess currently.
Forum’s, websites, all the shit we used to do.
Ah yes let me open up a voice chat of a forum.
Mumble has a web client… You can integrate that into your forum.
Sometimes as a community organizer you gotta put effort into solutions.
The main thing I will miss from discord is the ease of streaming with a small group of friends. That was main reason we chose it over alternatives back in the day.
In my day we just hung out with our friends…
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Discord has made communicating with a small group of friends who moved to different cities stay in touch daily while playing games, chatting in voice, and streaming stuff to share. Voice and text are great, but the streaming is how we share the in game moments we used to be able to see in person.