• blitzen@lemmy.ca
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      19 hours ago

      This particular sleaze is definitely male perpetuated and worth calling out. But shittiness knows no gender (or age or ethnicity for that matter.)

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      It’s fun being deeply ashamed of your gender because some of us are filth and scum.

      These fuckers harm everyone with their actions. Wish we could do something actionable about it.

      • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Okay, I feel like this needs to be addressed as well: this, like, public self-flagellation is not useful either. I have never once been ashamed of being a man.

        The problem that men have here is cultural and systemic, it’s expressed with statistics and social norms—it really, really has nothing to do with you or me specifically.

        If you’ve already done the work of recognizing that negging women is extremely rude, then you’ve already improved as a person. There’s no reason to be self-loathing about it.

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      18 hours ago

      You’d be surprised how many of these guys didn’t vote for Trump. Incels and woman haters exist across the spectrum. What we need is for social media to actually ban this content. But it makes them money.

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      if it’s any consolation, does make the bar for picking up woman incredibly low, makes it easier for the rest of us i think. just don’t be a complete creep and your at top of the curve

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        I recently re-entered the dating pool for the first time in a decade and it’s incredible how much attention I get from just appearing clean, having my shit together, and not posting a picture with me holding a fish. Never got so much attention from women before in my life. Had a date in like one week.

        The bar is very, very low. I am sorry, ladies out there.

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          Lots of women who I know and date say “the bar is in hell.” Fr just be a functional adult with good hygiene and emotional intelligence and you are in the top 1%.

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            and emotional intelligence

            Thank you for telling me I’m unfit.

            say “the bar is in hell.”

            This reads like a joke or an exaggeration, but it’s really there.

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            14 hours ago

            appearing clean

            It means he’s attractive.

            having my shit together

            It means he has money.

            If you lack both of these, it’s going to be rough.

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              I mean, I am 6’3”, have all my hair, and have 20% bodyfat, but there’s no indication of my financial status on my profile. I’m financially independent but I live in a modest house and have a practical, not fancy car. I’d say I’m a fairly normal lanky nerd that’s slightly on the spectrum.

              Point is, I feel like an average 50th percentile guy overall, but I’m getting a lot of attention, maybe 90th percentile based on what I read online. Still get ghosted a bunch, but who cares.

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              I’m friends with several women: no it doesn’t, and no it doesn’t.

              Having your shit together means your room doesn’t have a pile of garbage building on the floor. It means you’ve hung up 1 piece of art to make your white walls more interesting. It means your carpet was washed within the last 3 months.

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      This is honestly better than what I’ve encountered. At least they are trying to attract a woman.

      There are types who can both hate a woman’s personality and envy those she likes and hate her for not liking them, all at the same time.

      But yes, being male, I’ve been recently inspired by reading about medical advancements in procreation without boys. This will be necessary to counter the population growth on the side of various shmucks and their abused wives.

      (I’ve recently learned I have no right to call myself a shmuck since 13 years ago.)