Hmm, thats about what I think about the AFL. Every. damn. game. half the cities blocked up tighter than a bees bum… won’t someone think of muzza’s* third court appearance.
After reflection i suppose you’re right. The outcomes are different, one car in my way on the freeway is there to protest, the other car in my way on the freeway is there to AFL. Very different outcomes there… *
^*Maybe we should ban all cars but mine? Am I crazy, or would that solve my problem?^
I suppose totally different messages being sent though: one is, ‘i care about this thing and you’re also gona have to for a bit’; the other is, ‘i care about this thing and you’re gona need to wait’. Theres a nuance there.
Sadly there is one unavoidable outcome :) MUZZA DOESN’T MAKE HIS COURT APPEARANCE!! The judge. is. ropeable…
Saying that traffic caused by an afl game is in any way the same to highways and roads being abruptly blockaded by protesters shows you’re not here for an actual discussion.
Of course i’m not. I am satirising. Because your suggestion, and the implications of which, are ridiculous from the outset. The only sane response is to satirise the idea in the vain hope that through the equivalences drawn the ideas own ridiculousness is laid bare. In a bit of a ‘the emperor has no clothes’ kind of moment.
Have a good day mate. Lets protect freedom together in our own ways.
“Alleged+” is certainly an interesting way of phrasing “officially declared by the relevant independent UN commission”. That certainly is above alleged.
Our right to protest is a key tool in our political power toolset. Gathering to show support or discontent for an issue, and disrupting ‘business as usual’ is the whole bloody point - it applies pressure and creates visibility.
The government can’t tell us not to protest. Full stop. Our democracy in Australia is already cooked enough - let’s not let it slide.
If our ability to have ‘legal’ protests is taken - we have to protest anyway.
Just fyi - protests that make life difficult for regular people just trying to go about their day, even those who agree with the protesters, end up doing more harm than good for the cause of the protesters. It turns people against them and their cause.
Newsflash - the government isn’t harmed by Joe and Jane Smith being stuck in traffic in 40 degree heat for an hour, making them late for work or to pick up their kids. Joe and Jane smith are, and they don’t blame the government for it - they blame the protesters and by association the thing being protested.
Now I don’t think protests like that should be banned - but if you’re blocking a road I don’t think someone trying to drive on said road should get in trouble when you don’t move out of the way.
Your Joe and Jane Smith in this tale are clearly simple-minded idiots then and probably believe ON rhetoric so not much is lost in the grand scheme of things
Unpopular opinion but I agree. The protests are not protests but disruption of ordinary people’s lives for free.
It is one thing to get your opinion expressed freely, it’s another to block half a city because you think you have the right to express freely.
People do actually suffer consequence because they miss court dates, interviews, appointments, etc. They don’t matter?
Hmm, thats about what I think about the AFL. Every. damn. game. half the cities blocked up tighter than a bees bum… won’t someone think of muzza’s* third court appearance.
Living alongside other peoples a bitch ain’t it.
^*no shade on the muzza’s out there, love ya!^
The point of the AFL isn’t to make life hard for others who are just trying to go about their day.
So it’s not the outcome that’s the problem then, but rather the intention?
The outcome isn’t the same though.
After reflection i suppose you’re right. The outcomes are different, one car in my way on the freeway is there to protest, the other car in my way on the freeway is there to AFL. Very different outcomes there… *
^*Maybe we should ban all cars but mine? Am I crazy, or would that solve my problem?^
I suppose totally different messages being sent though: one is, ‘i care about this thing and you’re also gona have to for a bit’; the other is, ‘i care about this thing and you’re gona need to wait’. Theres a nuance there.
Sadly there is one unavoidable outcome :) MUZZA DOESN’T MAKE HIS COURT APPEARANCE!! The judge. is. ropeable…
Saying that traffic caused by an afl game is in any way the same to highways and roads being abruptly blockaded by protesters shows you’re not here for an actual discussion.
Uh oh… rumbled. ;)
Of course i’m not. I am satirising. Because your suggestion, and the implications of which, are ridiculous from the outset. The only sane response is to satirise the idea in the vain hope that through the equivalences drawn the ideas own ridiculousness is laid bare. In a bit of a ‘the emperor has no clothes’ kind of moment.
Have a good day mate. Lets protect freedom together in our own ways.
My suggestion? Of letting people protest?
You’re right, the point of the AFL isn’t the same as a protest.
The point of the protest is to stop our country’s government from aiding and abetting a genocide. Anything else pales in comparison.
Yeah, i made light of it. But you’re right to bring it back to the reason this is all so beyond acceptable for Australia.
*Alleged+ genocide, and blocking people from going about their day isn’t the way to go about it.
“Alleged+” is certainly an interesting way of phrasing “officially declared by the relevant independent UN commission”. That certainly is above alleged.
If Israel wanted to genocide palestinians they’d have blown it off the face of the earth on October 8.
Ah mate, you’ve now just lost any credibility you may have thought you had.
*The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984*
It’s not alleged?
Our right to protest is a key tool in our political power toolset. Gathering to show support or discontent for an issue, and disrupting ‘business as usual’ is the whole bloody point - it applies pressure and creates visibility.
The government can’t tell us not to protest. Full stop. Our democracy in Australia is already cooked enough - let’s not let it slide.
If our ability to have ‘legal’ protests is taken - we have to protest anyway.
Just fyi - protests that make life difficult for regular people just trying to go about their day, even those who agree with the protesters, end up doing more harm than good for the cause of the protesters. It turns people against them and their cause.
Newsflash - the government isn’t harmed by Joe and Jane Smith being stuck in traffic in 40 degree heat for an hour, making them late for work or to pick up their kids. Joe and Jane smith are, and they don’t blame the government for it - they blame the protesters and by association the thing being protested.
Now I don’t think protests like that should be banned - but if you’re blocking a road I don’t think someone trying to drive on said road should get in trouble when you don’t move out of the way.
Your Joe and Jane Smith in this tale are clearly simple-minded idiots then and probably believe ON rhetoric so not much is lost in the grand scheme of things
The simple minded idiots are the protesters turning everyone against them.
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what a sad and small minded take.
Bootlickers gonna lick boot
Protests are meant to be disruptive. It’s the whole point pf protesting.
People have important appointments at 5pm on Thursday evening?
Traffic accidents and train replacements also cause people to miss things.
Go back to tending your field you peasant-brained serf.