He’s right. Establishment dems have shown themselves repeatedly to not be capable of opposing a fascist agenda, and recent elections have shown that its not even the safe bet anymore. An establishment candidate is just doom at this point, might as well vote 3rd party and have a tiny shot
Progressives lost to AIPAC funded candidates. So they have proven themselves repeatedly to not be capable of opposing a fascist agenda.
Without the Democratic Party there would be no progressive party. There aren’t enough progressive voters or candidates.
This is the same mistake progressives have made year after year. They are tricked into throwing away their vote and as a result the government slides further right.
They pretend like they can win nation wide by cherry picking examples of progressives like Mamdani or Bernie winning in blue states as if that reflects how the rest of the country votes. It does not.
This is used to trick them into thinking they can win without the support of the rest of the voters that aren’t leftists. They cannot as proven by election results.
In reality, progressives only have enough numbers to tip the scales in favor of the GOP by not voting. The majority of voters are centrists or right wing. And for some stupid reason, leftists think they can change the leadership in a democracy by ignoring what centrists want.
Not at all. Democrats literally did not hold a primary in 2024 because the establishment would be crushed by non establishment candidates and they knew it.
No, they didn’t hold a primary because they had the incumbent advantage. You don’t weaken your own incumbent candidate by running people against them in the primary. That’s basic electoral politics.
Exactly. Terminally online leftists who believe they’re a far more powerful and influential bloc than they are (especially since they never fucking vote in primaries and only start whining during general elections) think that Democrats need to pander to them 100% of the time, and they lose when they do not.
They have no fucking idea how politics in the real world actually works.
Had the Democratic party courted their votes the way they demand, the Democrats would have received fewer votes. I’m confident of this.
Not only would so many of these people still stayed home because it’s never perfect enough for them, they would have lost a shit ton of centrist voters.
AIPAC is powerful for a reason. Unfortunately, there are tons of people in this country that are only just now beginning to come around on Israel.
And those people vote every fucking time.
Millions of people that voted D would have stayed home had Harris came out strong against Israel, and hardly any leftists would be convinced to get off their ass or vote for anyone but third party.
Sucks that this is how it is, but this is first past the post in a nation full of politically illiterate morons
He’s right. Establishment dems have shown themselves repeatedly to not be capable of opposing a fascist agenda, and recent elections have shown that its not even the safe bet anymore. An establishment candidate is just doom at this point, might as well vote 3rd party and have a tiny shot
Progressives lost to AIPAC funded candidates. So they have proven themselves repeatedly to not be capable of opposing a fascist agenda.
Without the Democratic Party there would be no progressive party. There aren’t enough progressive voters or candidates.
This is the same mistake progressives have made year after year. They are tricked into throwing away their vote and as a result the government slides further right.
They pretend like they can win nation wide by cherry picking examples of progressives like Mamdani or Bernie winning in blue states as if that reflects how the rest of the country votes. It does not.
This is used to trick them into thinking they can win without the support of the rest of the voters that aren’t leftists. They cannot as proven by election results.
In reality, progressives only have enough numbers to tip the scales in favor of the GOP by not voting. The majority of voters are centrists or right wing. And for some stupid reason, leftists think they can change the leadership in a democracy by ignoring what centrists want.
Not at all. Democrats literally did not hold a primary in 2024 because the establishment would be crushed by non establishment candidates and they knew it.
No, they didn’t hold a primary because they had the incumbent advantage. You don’t weaken your own incumbent candidate by running people against them in the primary. That’s basic electoral politics.
Same reason they didn’t have a primary in 2012.
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The answer to this isn’t to throw up our hands and give up, it’s to get more voters to come over to the left.
Exactly. Terminally online leftists who believe they’re a far more powerful and influential bloc than they are (especially since they never fucking vote in primaries and only start whining during general elections) think that Democrats need to pander to them 100% of the time, and they lose when they do not.
They have no fucking idea how politics in the real world actually works.
Had the Democratic party courted their votes the way they demand, the Democrats would have received fewer votes. I’m confident of this.
Not only would so many of these people still stayed home because it’s never perfect enough for them, they would have lost a shit ton of centrist voters.
AIPAC is powerful for a reason. Unfortunately, there are tons of people in this country that are only just now beginning to come around on Israel.
And those people vote every fucking time.
Millions of people that voted D would have stayed home had Harris came out strong against Israel, and hardly any leftists would be convinced to get off their ass or vote for anyone but third party.
Sucks that this is how it is, but this is first past the post in a nation full of politically illiterate morons