• HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com
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    1 day ago

    Remember when Republicans were outraged because a president was recieving blowjobs from a consenting adult in the oval office?

    Pepperidge farm remembers.

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      1 day ago

      Obviously, child rape is way worse. And any accused pedophile should at a minimum see a trial.

      However, Bill Clinton really did take advantage of Monica Lewinsky. He was her boss, she wasn’t just a consenting random adult. There are elements of coercion inherent in a power dynamic like that.

      More than one thing can be bad at a time.

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        However, Bill Clinton really did take advantage of Monica Lewinsky. He was her boss, she wasn’t just a consenting random adult. There are elements of coercion inherent in a power dynamic like that.

        How about you take all of 10s to find out what Monica Lewinsky actually said about Clinton.

        Monica Lewinsky has consistently said that her relationship with Bill Clinton was consensual.

        Although she has described it as inappropriate and shaped by a significant power imbalance, she has, however not claimed that he coerced.

        Indeed in later interviews and writing, she has emphasized the issue of power dynamics between a president and a young intern, while still maintaining that the encounters themselves were consensual.

        Everything Monica Lewinsky Revealed About the Bill Clinton Scandal in Her Podcast 589 Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton. Monica Lewinsky is ready to reclaim the narrative surrounding her life in the public eye.

        The activist just launched her “Reclaiming With Monica Lewinsky” podcast and dived into her infamous scandal with former President Bill Clinton.

        “I fell in love with D.C. and the White House and the job and the environment and then, very unfortunately, I fell in love with my boss who was married and also the most powerful man in the world,” she said on the February 17 episode. “What followed was an inappropriate relationship that lasted for two years

        https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/everything-monica-lewinsky-said-about-bill-clinton-in-her-podcast/

        In fact her life was fucked after the huge bullshit media fire storm the republicans stoked. She got basically black balled, no one would employ her (she said she had over to interviews, where no one would see her past her name)

        https://www.today.com/news/monica-lewinsky-bill-clinton-affair-resignation-rcna193798

        “There was definitely a period of time that I contemplated it, except given the world we lived in, I couldn’t even see a reality of that,” she said. “How is that really going to work? I’m going to walk down the street in L.A. where I was raised and run into someone and they’ll say ‘Monica’ and I’ll, you know, ‘Oh my name is Rebecca now,’ I didn’t even know how that would work”

        At no time had she ever felt like Clinton raped her.

        So stop spreading shit that he didn’t do. Shit I don’t even like the Clinton’s. I think Bill caused a huge amount of problems, especially, along Albright, killing hundreds of thousands of Iraq children and people in the 90s due to unnecessarily evil sanctions regime.

        And HRC has so much to answer for herself and yet to date, despite huge amounts of effort by their enemies no one has found any evidence that Bill raped or coerced anyone.

        Even the Epstein survivors have categorically stated that Bill Clinton did not touch them

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          The thing I find odd about the argument that a power imbalance makes consent impossible is that would make it effectively impossible for any POTUS to have consensual relations except for maybe with other world leaders.

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            The important point here is that the relationship occurred within the workplace. No one would care if it were just your run of the mill affair. He isn’t the first president, nor is he the last, to have one of those.

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              Oh Republicans would have definitely cared if Clinton had an affair with anyone. They didn’t care that Monica was an intern. They wanted to vilify a Democrat.

              And honestly it is a big deal if any politician has an affair since it’s then a huge vulnerability making them susceptible to coercion and blackmail.

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        20 hours ago

        And any accused pedophile should at a minimum see a trial.

        And what? Have him be convicted of 200 more felonies, to add to the 34 he already has so he can walk away just like he did before?

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        Seriously. Imagine yourself in her shoes. You get this dream internship, literally working in the oval office. What a life-changing opportunity! Then the literal president of the United States, the man in complete control of the CIA, FBI, and the most powerful military on Earth, a man who could probably have you disappeared if he wanted to. That man drops his pants and asks you to suck his dick.

        Nightmare fuel.

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          20 hours ago

          You are sexistly presuming she wasnt the one pursuing him aggressively. She herself said it was consensual I dont know how much more proof you need.