- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.zip
- cross-posted to:
- technology@lemmy.zip
“But it also takes a lot of energy to train a human,” Altman said. “It takes like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart. And not only that, it took the very widespread evolution of the 100 billion people that have ever lived and learned not to get eaten by predators and learned how to figure out science and whatever, to produce you.”
So in his view, the fair comparison is, “If you ask ChatGPT a question, how much energy does it take once its model is trained to answer that question versus a human? And probably, AI has already caught up on an energy efficiency basis, measured that way.”
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wouldn’t let that nerd fix a paper jam. visionary hallucinations. by that logic we should all die so ai might live cheaper. amen
he’s full of shit.
I can outperform ai while being powered by a bag of cinema popcorn, sit your bitch arse down
Hey don’t get angry at me, it is them immigrants fault I had to dehumanize you
Those lazy immigrants, sitting at home doing nothing, taking all our welfare and jobs.
AI actually kind of manages to do that: it takes jobs and then doesn’t do them (or at least doesn’t do them nearly as well as the humans it replaces).
by this logic AI has also used the knowledge of 100 billion people and has the same starting energy debt as a person. with the added bonus that it can’t actually create anything new. Even their dumbass arguments can’t stand under their own weight
These people fundamentally do not think about human life in a normal way.
It literally warms my heart to know they are all just as temporary as the rest of us. And how afraid they are of being dust in the wind
Started from “for good of humanity” and now we’re at “humans use a lot of energy”. Man why does everything have to suck like that.
We should build a time machine (with the help of AI this should be easy) and plant AI before mankind! We can avoid mankind and prevent that so much energy gets unnecessarily wasted on humans!
So killing tech bros would be better still?
There’s an easy answer to this problem.
Do you think we could actually get that much processing power out of Sam Altman if we shoved him in one of those things though?
No :( they need a brain to work
Oligarchs see human as disposable resources
We need to start seeing them as disposable obstacles to a better future
Someone on Bluesky pointed out that, even if you ignore the morality of this argument, AI is trained on human content, so if we’re going to start examining the human energy cost, we’ll have to factor in the cost of every single human whose work was used by ChatGPT on top of the data center costs.
Which makes the fact that their predictive text models are incapable of original thought that much more absurd.
Yes but if there are no humans working no one will buy your shitty chat bot.
Won’t anyone think of the poor rich people and their AI?
Sam needs another Megayacht. A few plebs need to stop breathing so he can get it.
Sam needs training too.
Tech bros deal in false equivalencies. In general they rely on the playbook of logical fallacies. The one they rely on most is the presumption that the technology they’re trying to sell is correct by default as if it’s a fundamental law of the universe. And that the onus is on others to prove them wrong. Rather than them having to prove its correctness.
They often resort to ad hominem by implying their detractors lack intelligence or they’re emotional. This again draws on more logical fallacy that because they deal in technology it means they presume to own the position of being purely objective and correct by default. So anyone who says otherwise is disputing science itself.
In other words they never have to prove the veracity of the technology they’re trying to sell because they divert the discourse off topic to frivolous arguments about something else.
