• themeatbridge@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    The only reason Biden stepped down when he did was that the DNC wanted to avoid a primary they knew Kamala wouldn’t win. They waited until she was the only viable candidate. It wasn’t delusion, it was strategy. It was terrible strategy, but I also think that’s part of the strategy. We didn’t “get” Biden to step down. We failed to get rid of him soon enough for it to matter.

    The problem is that there aren’t enough voters who support free healthcare, abolition of ICE, and zero weapons for Israel. We need leadership to make the argument for those policies, and those leaders are simply lacking. There are more every day, and I will fight with everything I have to support them, but they are going to keep losing for a while. Our fight is long, and we plant the trees that will shade our decendents when we are long buried. And in the meantime, there will be an election, and you will make a choice. Choose something you can live with, because it will have an impact on the world. If you choose not to participate, you are still equally responsible for the outcome.

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      there aren’t enough voters who support free healthcare, abolition of ICE, and zero weapons for Israel

      Nah, that requires intentionally misleading polls. Ask someone on the street “Do you think healthcare should be free” or even “should every single american have healthcare” and you will get overwhelming agreement. To get people to disagree you have to do bullshit like “Do you want the government to take away your health insurance” or something. Same with abolition of ICE and weapons for Israel. The only people who want ICE coming to their neighborhood and dragging off their neighbors or Israel bombing brown people are never going to vote dem.

      There are no voters who will vote for means-tested subsidies for insurance companies that you buy through 1 of 50 online marketplaces or through your employer, but won’t vote for free healthcare.

      There is a shitton of voters who will vote for free healthcare, but will assume whatever compromised centrist solution the neolibs come up with will not help them.

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        1 hour ago

        “Do you think healthcare should be free?” is not the same question as “Do you care enough about free healthcare to vote for a candidate who supports it?” Voters are largely uninformed, unengaged, and only rarely do more than show up to vote if they bother to do that.

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          The number of people who will show up for free healthcare is greater than the number who will show up for complicated tax credits for PEL grant recipients who operate a business in an under-served neighborhood for 5 years and were born on a prime numbered date, and make between 20 and 40K/year and submit 12 pages of paperwork.

          Hell when I was phone-banking for Biden in 2020, half the people I was contacted listed free healthcare and freeing the ICE camps as reasons they were going to vote.

          They thought they were voting for progressive policy, the opposite of that happened. Further disengagement is expected result of not doing everything in your power to help your base.

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            Further disengagement is expected result of not doing everything in your power to help your base.

            The DNC thinks its base is netanyahu and two cheneys. Well, one cheney now.