The DNC and Democratic Leadership must go, this party is dead.

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    18 hours ago

    I’m not a “third party voter” guy. But between ICE and now this - Bernie Sanders has a power he could use, is definitely aware of, and doesn’t.

    If Bernie sanders announced that the Democratic party was a failed party he is the only progressive leader in this country that could actually form a third party that would literally replace the Democratic party overnight. At least in terms of current democratic voter approval ratings. His voice alone would build so much momentum.

    I think he is too much of a liberal Zionist to leave the Democratic party. Or he’s just really not who he once was. It’s just a shame. He was an important figure to moving this country to the left and made a lot of young leftist into what we are today. Many of us seeing him as a right winger at this point.

    The Democratic party is so unpopular. There is no better time to destroy it and replace it. I don’t think it is possible to work within it anymore. What are we voting for in November when half the Democrats will still support ICE and endless war?

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        13 hours ago

        Yes. On paper. Do you have any meaningful difference to define him any differently than someone like AoC or Illhan Omar? Besides just the label he has on his name on CSPAN?

        Not sure why what you said has anything to do with what I said.

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          Believe it or not, political parties are not ordinarily supposed to refuse all negotiations with any other party, vote no on any measures they introduce, and call them all demons to their supporters. The independent/Democrat relation is just a rare American instance of that.

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        13 hours ago

        Feel free tell me what you disagree with.

        Bernie wouldn’t do this. It was more of a thought of what could be done at this point. Not saying it would ever happen.

        When you make a comment like you did. It’s helpful to add a couple sentences to actually show you understand something. Otherwise you just sound like YOU don’t understand something.

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          Bernie is tired, man. He doesn’t want another presidential run. He would gladly pass off the torch if anyone was ready to take it from him.

          The generation of DemSocs that he raised are doing good things, but they’re still young politically speaking. There’s still a lot of good they can do from their positions in congress and local offices while they establish themselves in their political careers and expand the influence of the DSA.

          Give them time. Many of them don’t even meet the 35 y.o. age requirement to run for president yet. And even if they do, their track record isn’t long enough yet to be taken seriously by the mainstream.

          Bernie established a movement, and it will take time to mature. Be patient. Nothing happens overnight, and if you’re expecting immediate perfection you will always be disappointed. Learn to settle for incremental change and gradual progress, otherwise you may end up doing damage that sets us even further back.

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            18 minutes ago

            I think a lot of people misunderstood my post. You included. I never said he should run again. I said he should start a new party.

            He could start a party with his backing and promote the next generation of democratic socialist. Sadly, he doesn’t and is going to die and leave a massive hole in the momentum and influence he has.

            The only one close is AoC and I don’t think she is even close to having the momentum to actually disconnect from the Democratic party.

            But if Bernie endorsed her for a presidential run until a newly formed party. So many Americans would jump on board that train.