• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    You guys are asking the wrong questions.

    How is Linux going to do this? There’s no server for the os to send the information to report the age of its users, no way of forcing its user base to comply and no single person or entity to fine, arrest or otherwise force into compliance.

    They made a law they cannot enforce.

    • Digit@lemmy.wtf
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      1 hour ago

      Or they made a law to attempt to ban operating systems with free software licenses.

    • dev_null@lemmy.ml
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      8 hours ago

      How is Linux going to do this? There’s no server for the os to send the information to report the age of its users

      The law doesn’t require sending the data anywhere, so that’s not a problem.

      no way of forcing its user base to comply and no single person or entity to fine, arrest or otherwise force into compliance.

      The law doesn’t require anything of users, it requires something of OS providers. OS providers have addresses and entities to fine.

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        1 hour ago

        No addresses or entities tied to the distro respins I’ve made.

        That was not a requirement in the software license.

      • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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        3 hours ago

        The law doesn’t require anything of users, it requires something of OS providers.

        For a FOSS OS, any user with root access would be considered an “OS Provider” under the definitions provided in this law. With FOSS, there is no real distinction between “user” and “developer”.

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          2 hours ago

          You are right, it just says whoever “controls the OS”, which is very vague. Even without going to open source, a user still controls the OS even on Windows or macOS. To a lesser degree of course, but in the same way a driver controls a car even if they can’t or won’t try to modify it.

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            1 hour ago

            The windows user uses the OS. The windows user does not control the OS. They only have access to the functions that Microsoft has provided. The Attorney General of California won’t be able to argue that the sysadmin is the OS Provider of a Windows installation. The OS Provider of Windows is Microsoft.

            The Attorney General of California would easily be able to argue that the OS Provider of a particular Linux instance is the sysadmin of that instance.

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      9 hours ago

      What if banning Linux is part of the Agenda? And what will they do for the servers? I am declaring my pc a server as of right now…

      • yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip
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        7 hours ago

        How do you want to do this? Linux is a kernel the world relies on. It powers your car, your fridge, your satellite, your phone, the entire Internet, the army, etc. Nothing comes close to Linux in market share. The distros are built upon the kernel. System76 may have to comply, but the other maintainers don’t give a flying fuck. They could even write a small line somewhere on their repo that says “this distro is not allowed in California” and call it a day.

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          1 hour ago

          I wonder if that “this distro is not allowed in California” approach is even compatible with the various free software licenses.

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            1 hour ago

            Terms of Use / Terms of Service are different from Licenses. That said, even if it was compatible that would be a good thing, as the impression I’ve got is that the “hard-liner” Free Software licenses are becoming a thing of the past now that what is needed is “Ethical Source” licenses, that eg.: restrict usage in AI.

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      11 hours ago

      Which is why we all should aspire to join linux, and reject newsome and other greasy california politicians cynically playing us for the billionaires.

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      12 hours ago

      From what I understood, it’s a requirement for a local API (for apps to use) and could be implemented during user creation.

      It will be a slippery slope and IANAL, just my interpretation.