An excellent suggestion was made to concentrate Iran conversation and posting to this mega thread. Please keep as much as you can here so that the main feed isn’t overburdened by Iran news.
An excellent suggestion was made to concentrate Iran conversation and posting to this mega thread. Please keep as much as you can here so that the main feed isn’t overburdened by Iran news.
Is there anyone that can help an out of the loop fellow such as myself? I know of the war but I have no idea how and why it started. I thought Israel was all over palestine as of late. And now everyone in the area and the USA are involved?
Who benefits from Trump’s war in Iran? The answer is disturbingly clear.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/56168528
But but Hunter’s laptop!
And Hunter’s hog which MTG seemed a bit obsessed with.
This is the second time I’ve seen nevis and kitts mentioned this week.
Some guy who regularly shits his pants raped kids with a guy that worked for mossad. He and/or mossad had that guy murdered a couple years ago. People started asking too many uncomfortable questions recently so this was the best course of action.
The Mossad informant obviously returned all of the blackmail on Trump to them. Must be pretty bad if they can make him do a war so easily.
Iran has been a headache for a long time. Much like in America and Israel, violent religious fundamentalists took control over society and installed a reign of terror.
This has of course been bad for the Iranians, but America of course could not care less about that. However, Iran has been a major concern for Israel, as they are an unreliable an aggressive neighbour. Again, don’t let the irony get lost on you. The threat of Iran maybe managing to develop nukes has been a particularly salient issue, and perhaps one of the driving forces behind Israel getting its own nukes decades ago.
In short, Israel just cannot feel safe with the current rule in Iran. Or so the Israeli far right has insisted for decades, anyways. Keeping this fear high on the agenda has been key to winning elections and to get in place the far right genocidal lunatics currently in the Israeli government. Along with the fear of Palestinians of course.
The US is of course loyal allies of Israel as their one true friend in a region full of oil. The Saudis are of course also good friends whenever they are not actively attacking America and killing civilians or journalists, but they are not quite as good at lobbying. So American interests and Israeli interests are pretty much the same, and the Iranian regime has been the face of evil for decades. Conveniently they are also super evil, so it’s easy to make propaganda.
Recently the Iranian regime has murdered a bunch of civilians who protest the regime. The US and Israel wouldn’t usually care about dead civilians in the middle east - they certainly wouldn’t oppose it at least - but right now it provides a convenient excuse to bomb the fuck out of Iran. Trump needs this because he needs support before the upcoming election- a successful impeachment might allow the opposition to grow teeth, and if they do he could end up locked away for life.
Netanyahu is in even deeper ship than Trump, with corruption charges at home and crimes against humanity abroad. Now that his genocide in Palestine is getting old he needs something new to keep him in power.
Iran responds to attack by sending missiles towards American military bases in the area. American military bases are located in the surrounding countries, which is why you see newspaper headlines making out as if Iran is launching a war on every country in the regioun. They’re not, they’re just trying to strike back against America and Israel. Just like the Americans and Israelis they suck at hitting military targets and often end up hitting civilian ones instead.
Israel will never feel safe until they have annexed, conquered or vassalized all their neighbors
I mean, the whole point of Western imperialism, since its very beginning, was complete world dominance and Israel is a Western colony. And they got pretty close at some point (the Brits and the French devoured Africa and Asia, for example, and Algeria was a French colony up until the 1950s!), and the repercussions are felt today still, but at this point it kinda seems like an unfeasible dream (not that they’re not gonna try, ofc). The world is bigger than the West, once more, or at least that seems to be the trajectory.
All fascists need a good enemy, obliviate one and you have to move on to the next. The only end game to this bullshit is total apocalypse. Which of course is what the evangelical Christian supporters of Israel has been cheering for all along.
Rome did it first: becoming a war-led society while fighting for their survival, then erasing the only other superpower of the time, then conquering each and every land and people around the Mediterranean sea, while pretending that they were defending themselves or their allies. Took a millenia to collapse.
Sounds so much like the US
Iranians aren’t Arabs.
Oops, obvisouly, was thinking about the Muslim world and getting terms mixed. Fixed.
Trump is desperate to keep the Epstein files out of the spot light so he is doing anything to keep attention elsewhere. As soon as the Winter Olympics stopped distracting people, the orange pedophile launch the USA into war.
On the other part, Netanyahu needs to keep Israel in war so his own corruption trials do not catch up to him… with Palestine raised to the ground, Iran is the next target
“As soon as the Winter Olympics stopped distracting people, the orange pedophile launch the USA into war.”
Hey, Putin did the exact same thing after Sochi! Remember?
From my perspective, it seems like Israel knows what they have with Trump; a willing patsy who will enact their agenda, as long as they stroke his ego. So you have US-Iran talks making some level of headway, then Netanyahu whispering in his ear about how this makes him look week on terror, goading the US into action. And because Trump is Trump, he’s going to do what he thinks makes him look good and earns him and his billionaire friends money, which is wartime. So while the war itself seems pretty unpopular domestically across most political spectrum, this allows him to fulfill his own vain purposes by Israel continuing to stroke his ego, he gets to feel like the big heroic man he wishes he was by saving the world in his mind, and his echo chamber cabinet won’t go against him, so everyone says this is the right thing to do.
And then also what everyone else says; this distracts from Epstein Files, this is part of his lead-in to trying to take over the midterms and reduce election viability through restricting mail in and electronic voting (were gonna have 2 million people vote in a single precinct in New York, LA, Chicago, etc) while rural red districts breeze on through? It’s all a ploy to keep GOP in power. It’s the most thinly veiled coup ever, and half the nation is eating it up simply because it’s “their guy”.
Also, the GOP is aging out. The Boomers are thinning. The Silent Generation is all but gone. The skeletons are coming out of the closet all the way up to the Supreme Court.
Information moves too quickly now. They can’t keep the cat in the bag anymore. That’s why they’re snapping up ownership of all the news networks and social media platforms or forcing them to spy on us and figure out who we are. AI can do weeks of research in hours and doesn’t get fatigued by massive releases of documents and every average person can wield it to see for themselves.
Israel is no longer the darling ally in latest polls. And we have no real Big Bad. When they try to manufacture one, we see right through the malarkey.
They know they’re probably done, and maybe forever if they lose this time. Goodbye cushy lifestyles and jobs, and their generational wealth. And of course they will have to answer for all their evil deeds if they are forced to relinquish power to a party that is currently getting lambasted for being do-nothing, hand wavy, arrogant, status-quo keeping corporate shill sellouts.
Here’s a wrbinar that may help
https://youtu.be/Gg1HGj_aOP8