I’ll assume you’re asking in good faith despite coming across as an obtuse chunk of drywall.
Most of the big bets are waiting for midterms before making a move. It will be a handful of names like Mark Kelly, AOC, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ro Khanna jumps into the ring. It may be more too, but again, midterms are going to basically dictate who gets the power and support.
My bets are on Mark Kelly currently, and leads my personal list alongside AOC. Not perfect candidates, but would be amazing leaders of US policy and tone for the repair-work we need to do.
On the other side, we’re going to get an absolute circus of freakish, stupid right-wing nutjobs and youtube influencers and CEO’s. They’re also waiting for the midterms to get a gauge of how good their chances are.
(I’ve been around a few decades, this is not new, we are going to get a democrat president, who will spend 8 years fixing the economy, then dumbass fucking chud population will finally rage at the woke and liberalism and elect some kind of mecha-Mussolini to start a bunch of wars and start the cycle over again.)
I encourage you to actually get politically informed so you can you know, vote intelligently. Assuming you’re in the US.
We don’t even know who’s running yet. Implying people aren’t allowed to criticize shitty hypocritical politicians because they might, at some future date, announce they’re running for president is completely ridiculous.
Since that’s all it has ever been. Biden’s terrible, Harris is terrible, Schumer and Jeffries are beyond terrible - yeah, great, got it. What’s the plan then?
All I ever get are non-sequitur rants about seizing the means of production and incorrect assertions about the elections process from people who have never lived in the US. That is - by itself, with nothing ever else appearing - less than worthless.
Since that’s all it has ever been. Biden’s terrible, Harris is terrible, Schumer and Jeffries are beyond terrible - yeah, great, got it. What’s the plan then?
Wild how often it’s the case of dems in power being terrible.
Also so does that mean we can’t say trump/putin/bibi is terrible without specifying an alternative?
Wild how often it’s the case of dems in power being terrible.
I see some love for AOC (but also insta-damnation if dog forbid she hews incorrectly), Mamdani got a lot of love (for a city mayor) at least until he made the fatal error of crossing a SocDem, and Bernie gets love. But that’s it. 99.8% of Democrats are the worst, most evil fascists under the sun according to their support base. If you believe that.
Is it any wonder they look to the center for support when it gets close to election time?
Also so does that mean we can’t say trump/putin/bibi is terrible without specifying an alternative?
For the first 100 slams, no those are free. After that you have to have something else besides a big bag of bitching. But only for trump, unless you’re voting in the israeli or russian election.
Which, sometimes I wonder if some of the commenters are.
Yeah cause they don’t want to actually provide anything the people want.
What like national healthcare? A Green New Deal? Yeah The People din’t want that shit they want to murder children, right?
And unsurprisingly again avoiding the point to continue to just punch left
What point? Democratic candidates are depraved existential horrors roaming the land devouring women and children alive for sport? Sure lemme google some things i’ll get back to you.
The so-called left can’t even be relied upon to vote against literal paramilitary gangs roaming the streets murdering mothers and nurses. That’s who you want them to spend all their political capital chasing? Well, good luck. But just so you know they’re not going to vote anyway. Purity tests are real and they are unwinnable.
What like national healthcare? A Green New Deal? Yeah The People din’t want that shit they want to murder children, right?
Weird how neither parties run on that
The so-called left can’t even be relied upon to vote against literal paramilitary gangs roaming the streets murdering mothers and nurses. That’s who you want them to spend all their political capital chasing? Well, good luck. But just so you know they’re not going to vote anyway. Purity tests are real and they are unwinnable.
Wow, amazing how you’re only point is blaming the voters.
left can’t even be relied upon to vote against literal paramilitary gangs roaming the streets murdering mothers and nurses
Again, both parties were okay with that. There wasn’t one who would stop it
Well, one party ran on the first part multiple times making a big push for it that took up a full year in two administrations, and actually made the second one law, so. Get a clue?
Wow, amazing how you’re only point is blaming the voters.
I’m blaming the non-voters. Keep up.
Again, both parties were okay with that. There wasn’t one who would stop it
The DHS is still shut down. Do you actually know how anything works? Because it’d be great if you could do that.
Of the people who’ve expressed interest in a 2028 run, I’d take Buttigieg or Kelly over Newson any day. Of the speculated candidates, AOC over all 3. Pritzker over Newson, too.
You’ll forget this and repeat your bullshit about the left not having a candidate the next time anyone expresses any dissatisfaction whatsoever with one of your preferred genocidal candidates.
Because the primaries haven’t started is why people usually say this is an acceptable time to criticize newsom.
He is spending all his time trying to meet people who think he’s the devil halfway. He’s so delusional, idk if we’d get anything from Newsom but MAGA-light anti trans bullshit, anti homeless bullshit. He doesn’t know or care about the democrat voters or their needs at all.
Other governers have been floated. Idk if we need Newsom at all in any future presidential election.
And fair enough, but what - besides shitting on existing candidates - is there? Now that we’re nearly midway to the next presidential election?
So far in the, now years, that I’ve been asking, there’s nothing. Nothing but more shitting on existing candidates and outrage that I should ask who should get support.
That seems . . . not viable as a strategy to gain access to offices.
Agitating for better policies is not “nothing” no matter how much you’re bothered by it.
edit: I’m also fascinated by this commentary because for a year+ leftists and progressives were told not to criticize Biden because it was “too close to an election”, and now we’re being told by the same people that not to criticize any potential candidate at any time, or else we’re hurting the democrats’ chances in 2 and a half years.
It’s like libs have learned absolutely nothing from blithely accepting a milquetoast, unpopular moderate shitbag as their candidate and getting their asses handed to them for it.
What part of “Newsom is worse than Hitler” is “agitating for better policies”?
I’m specifically saying you should advocate for the candidate you want NOW instead of only and forever shitting on candidates other people pick. But you can’t even do that.
Because you’re using “libs” I’m assuming you’re not American? Or just have a real affinity for the republican nazi party?
Or are you actually an anarchist and therefore opposed to elections?
Should I take this to mean that you’ve selected Newsom before he or anybody else has actually announced? Who has ‘picked’ a candidate at this point?
What I don’t see in this comment is an actual defense of Newsom by any sort of merit, which is about as expected. People criticizing Newsom (or any other presumptive candidate at this point) for his policy positions are sending signals that there’s a hole in the presumptive candidate pool that someone can fill. If someone were to actually announce their candidacy, they’d have a pretty clear lane to pick that Newsom has left open (but actually maybe not, since he himself can’t seem to pick a lane on just about any issue, and is instead just swerving back and forth across the entire field). I think AOC would be a decent pick to fill that lane, even if I have my apprehensions, but she hasn’t announced yet either.
Because you’re using “libs” I’m assuming you’re not American?
Should I take this to mean that you’ve selected Newsom before he or anybody else has actually announced?
Oh no, I don’t know anything about him other than his trump trolling. I just see people already losing their minds at the thought that he could be the nominee.
I think AOC would be a decent pick to fill that lane, even if I have my apprehensions, but she hasn’t announced yet either.
I’d love to see an AOC candidacy. But given America’s obvious problem with voting for women I dunno how it would play out. I guess it depends if we all survive that far.
Are you new here?
Yeah yeah just fell off the turnip truck. Back home liberal means progressive and leftist is between sophmore and junior in college. As it has done for literally generations. Other countries, though, use it differently.
Idk. We’ll see if his midterm gambit pays off and if he has any other anti gerrymandering proposals.
He’s bad on affordability. He’s bad on social issues. He’s bad on economic issues. The only thing going on is he seems to understand twitter and gerrymandering.
Sure, sure - so who are the Lemmyleft promoting instead?
. . .
It . . . you have to have someone. To, y’know, recieve the votes.
. . . Anyone? There’s a big thing happening in a couple of years. I’m told these things need to be planned out or something.
I’ll assume you’re asking in good faith despite coming across as an obtuse chunk of drywall.
Most of the big bets are waiting for midterms before making a move. It will be a handful of names like Mark Kelly, AOC, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ro Khanna jumps into the ring. It may be more too, but again, midterms are going to basically dictate who gets the power and support.
My bets are on Mark Kelly currently, and leads my personal list alongside AOC. Not perfect candidates, but would be amazing leaders of US policy and tone for the repair-work we need to do.
On the other side, we’re going to get an absolute circus of freakish, stupid right-wing nutjobs and youtube influencers and CEO’s. They’re also waiting for the midterms to get a gauge of how good their chances are.
(I’ve been around a few decades, this is not new, we are going to get a democrat president, who will spend 8 years fixing the economy, then dumbass fucking chud population will finally rage at the woke and liberalism and elect some kind of mecha-Mussolini to start a bunch of wars and start the cycle over again.)
I encourage you to actually get politically informed so you can you know, vote intelligently. Assuming you’re in the US.
If you read any of their comments you’ll sadly see they are not doing anything in good faith.
Best one from them is that they apparently know absolutely nothing about newsom
That sounds about right, actually. Will anyone punish the corrupt nazis in office though?
No.
We don’t even know who’s running yet. Implying people aren’t allowed to criticize shitty hypocritical politicians because they might, at some future date, announce they’re running for president is completely ridiculous.
PSL
it’s psl
go organize with the psl
instead of sitting on your ass lecturing others they should be doing something help out the psl
a better candidate isn’t going to materialise out of nowhere you actually have to do something with the psl
AOC.
Go ahead. Let me know that the genocide wing is suddenly racist and sexist as soon as it’s suggested that a progressive woman of color might run.
Since when is
A reason to say a terrible politician is terrible?
Since that’s all it has ever been. Biden’s terrible, Harris is terrible, Schumer and Jeffries are beyond terrible - yeah, great, got it. What’s the plan then?
All I ever get are non-sequitur rants about seizing the means of production and incorrect assertions about the elections process from people who have never lived in the US. That is - by itself, with nothing ever else appearing - less than worthless.
pull Al Franken out of retirement. This Newsom bullshit ain’t it.
Also good!
Wild how often it’s the case of dems in power being terrible.
Also so does that mean we can’t say trump/putin/bibi is terrible without specifying an alternative?
I see some love for AOC (but also insta-damnation if dog forbid she hews incorrectly), Mamdani got a lot of love (for a city mayor) at least until he made the fatal error of crossing a SocDem, and Bernie gets love. But that’s it. 99.8% of Democrats are the worst, most evil fascists under the sun according to their support base. If you believe that.
Is it any wonder they look to the center for support when it gets close to election time?
For the first 100 slams, no those are free. After that you have to have something else besides a big bag of bitching. But only for trump, unless you’re voting in the israeli or russian election.
Which, sometimes I wonder if some of the commenters are.
Yeah cause they don’t want to actually provide anything the people want.
And unsurprisingly again avoiding the point to continue to just punch left
What like national healthcare? A Green New Deal? Yeah The People din’t want that shit they want to murder children, right?
What point? Democratic candidates are depraved existential horrors roaming the land devouring women and children alive for sport? Sure lemme google some things i’ll get back to you.
The so-called left can’t even be relied upon to vote against literal paramilitary gangs roaming the streets murdering mothers and nurses. That’s who you want them to spend all their political capital chasing? Well, good luck. But just so you know they’re not going to vote anyway. Purity tests are real and they are unwinnable.
This always means “I have no standards and I expect you to abandon yours.”
Weird how neither parties run on that
Wow, amazing how you’re only point is blaming the voters.
Again, both parties were okay with that. There wasn’t one who would stop it
Well, one party ran on the first part multiple times making a big push for it that took up a full year in two administrations, and actually made the second one law, so. Get a clue?
I’m blaming the non-voters. Keep up.
The DHS is still shut down. Do you actually know how anything works? Because it’d be great if you could do that.
Mamdani fell out of favor?
For a few minutes, yeah.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/28/nyregion/mamdani-dsa-socialist-mayor.html
Paywalled article
Yeah you’ll need to use an archive site to read it, or else search those keywords. Need help?
Of the people who’ve expressed interest in a 2028 run, I’d take Buttigieg or Kelly over Newson any day. Of the speculated candidates, AOC over all 3. Pritzker over Newson, too.
There yo go. See people, it’s not that hard
You’ll forget this and repeat your bullshit about the left not having a candidate the next time anyone expresses any dissatisfaction whatsoever with one of your preferred genocidal candidates.
Because the primaries haven’t started is why people usually say this is an acceptable time to criticize newsom.
He is spending all his time trying to meet people who think he’s the devil halfway. He’s so delusional, idk if we’d get anything from Newsom but MAGA-light anti trans bullshit, anti homeless bullshit. He doesn’t know or care about the democrat voters or their needs at all.
Other governers have been floated. Idk if we need Newsom at all in any future presidential election.
And fair enough, but what - besides shitting on existing candidates - is there? Now that we’re nearly midway to the next presidential election?
So far in the, now years, that I’ve been asking, there’s nothing. Nothing but more shitting on existing candidates and outrage that I should ask who should get support.
That seems . . . not viable as a strategy to gain access to offices.
Agitating for better policies is not “nothing” no matter how much you’re bothered by it.
edit: I’m also fascinated by this commentary because for a year+ leftists and progressives were told not to criticize Biden because it was “too close to an election”, and now we’re being told by the same people that not to criticize any potential candidate at any time, or else we’re hurting the democrats’ chances in 2 and a half years.
It’s like libs have learned absolutely nothing from blithely accepting a milquetoast, unpopular moderate shitbag as their candidate and getting their asses handed to them for it.
What part of “Newsom is worse than Hitler” is “agitating for better policies”?
I’m specifically saying you should advocate for the candidate you want NOW instead of only and forever shitting on candidates other people pick. But you can’t even do that.
Because you’re using “libs” I’m assuming you’re not American? Or just have a real affinity for the republican nazi party?
Or are you actually an anarchist and therefore opposed to elections?
Who said Newsom is worse than Hitler?
Lmao, yea I’m not touching that one
Should I take this to mean that you’ve selected Newsom before he or anybody else has actually announced? Who has ‘picked’ a candidate at this point?
What I don’t see in this comment is an actual defense of Newsom by any sort of merit, which is about as expected. People criticizing Newsom (or any other presumptive candidate at this point) for his policy positions are sending signals that there’s a hole in the presumptive candidate pool that someone can fill. If someone were to actually announce their candidacy, they’d have a pretty clear lane to pick that Newsom has left open (but actually maybe not, since he himself can’t seem to pick a lane on just about any issue, and is instead just swerving back and forth across the entire field). I think AOC would be a decent pick to fill that lane, even if I have my apprehensions, but she hasn’t announced yet either.
Are you new here?
Oh no, I don’t know anything about him other than his trump trolling. I just see people already losing their minds at the thought that he could be the nominee.
I’d love to see an AOC candidacy. But given America’s obvious problem with voting for women I dunno how it would play out. I guess it depends if we all survive that far.
Yeah yeah just fell off the turnip truck. Back home liberal means progressive and leftist is between sophmore and junior in college. As it has done for literally generations. Other countries, though, use it differently.
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I can read. So. Good one.
Has that not occurred to you? Here. You should probably realize that other people are involved in deciding your country’s future. Take your time.
Cynically picky? Ha! What bullshit.
What
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Idk. We’ll see if his midterm gambit pays off and if he has any other anti gerrymandering proposals.
He’s bad on affordability. He’s bad on social issues. He’s bad on economic issues. The only thing going on is he seems to understand twitter and gerrymandering.