Support for violence to resist feminism was highest among adolescent boys (28%), followed closely by adolescent girls (21%).
Perhaps most alarming: roughly 40% of boys aged 13 to 17 agreed that women lie about domestic and sexual violence.
These results raise crucial questions going forward. We don’t yet know how these views have changed over time, whether they are on the rise and what the links are between violent extremism and the negative treatment of women.
How many of them believe that everyone lies?
“women lie about DV…”, will go both ways. You will also find some that are in those conditions and will not tell others or even try to hide it (for what reasons, I can’t really tell).
Until we know about the actual wording of the survey, there is no way to tell what exactly they are interpreting.
I also have a feeling that the people who conducted the survey, might be misinterpreting the answers.
Yeah I’m curious how it was asked.
Cause of course women get abused that 100% is true, but there are definitely some women who lie about it. How many? Who knows. I would like to say only a few but I have no data to support it, I can only say it’s most likely non-zero.
the banner photo has them looking like thugs, so you think the article has a slant about how young men are evil blah balh.
the entire article is a frames itself as ‘awareness of evil young men’ piece and equates young men ‘not being feminists’ to be alt-right.
It’s a trash sensationalist article, drumming up gender war bullshit and fear. I have two young nephews, who basically refuse to date because their experiences with women have been so full of drama and misery they decided to just give up. They are 16 and 17. They aren’t feminists either. They’d rather game whit their friends and play sports because it’s rewarding and fun, dating for them has been miserable and exhausting and depressing because the girls they know incessantly lie and cause drama and try to cause fights.
I feel bad for them because when I was their age, there was no social media an dating was fun. They live in an age where teenage girls basically think all men are trash for not driving Bentley’s or whatever nonsense they follow on social media. There is a lot of toxic content aimed at women that is just as awful as the manosphere, but nobody is talking about pointing out horrible sexist content that is for women is ‘misogyny’
I’d say a truly equal condition would be when the women feel like they have the freedom to not date anyone. But due to how expectations work, I feel like that would be hard to happen for anyone in that age group.
I have found it, in general, rare for people to get to live their life by their own thoughts and not be swayed by fads in media. At the same time, that is one trait I consider important for anyone to not have to regret their decisions.
nobody is forcing women to date. what the hell are you talking about?
men and women both have social pressure to be in relationships, they also want to be in them.
however, what is different about things these days is it’s way easier to be alone than tolerate being with a shitty miserable partner. I actually have same complaints with dating as my 17 year old nephew, that my choices are be happy alone, or be miserable with someone who hates their life/friends/family and wants to make me suffer too. we’d both love to date someone who is happy with their life, but we don’t meet anyone like that.
Yes. That’s pretty much how it is for most.
But their expectations from relationships also get shaped by the expectations on them. And here I realise I am just saying the same thing as you, just in different words.
sort of, but you are pointing out one of the biggest problems with the whole thing. Also in my experience, it’s that people’s expectations of relationships are so far out of whack with the reality there really is no point in trying anymore.
And I’ve noticed this a lot. Most of my dates now expect me to make a 500K salary or something and think anyone who doesn’t is ‘not worth their time’. It’s an absurd expectation born of defensiveness and seeking fantasy escapism, rather than real connection. And they fill up their lives with social media and consumerism and broadcast that they are so happy on the outside, but they are miserable on the inside because they have no real connections and their external ‘standards’ they are a requirement for ‘happiness’ just prevent them from actually making real relationships. And they justify a lot of that by claiming that others expect perfection of them so they should expect perfection of others. It’s so… fucked up and self-destructive. But if you bring it up… if you challenge the idea that you can be happy without a 500K income… they go ballistic on you for ‘having no ambition’ ‘being a loser’ etc.
My other favorite thing to do on dates sometimes, is to say something like "I think people are the most beautiful when they wake up and their hair is messy and groggy and they stink a little bit’. It really fucks with these types of people, because for them being a human being who is messy and imperfect is like the thing they are desperately trying to avoid being.
Where are you even getting this? This is a deranged reading of this article.
Cite one part of this that is framing one gender as being essentially evil. It’s very clear that it is recognizing a troubling trend vs condemning a gender. You’re clearly reacting to something that isn’t in this article.
The picture, as stated in the comment you are replying to.
The picture isn’t about evil hooligans, it just looks like teenage boys to me. The black mark drawn over their faces is not that they are fundamentally evil because of their gender, the background shows the influencers who are putting mysoginistic ideas, signified by a black mark, onto these boys. This is clear going by the text of the article. It isn’t even in the subtext of the picture. Youre reading that into it
Really? So where are the 21% of young women in this picture? Are your media comprehension skills so poor that you can not see any gender focus on this article at all?
“Support for violence to resist feminism was highest among adolescent boys (28%), followed closely by adolescent girls (21%).” This is not even a wide spread and this article is a hit piece about a real issue that is very much made worse by this sort of coverage.