Fuck yeah we should let them stay.
What’re all the chuds doing in here? Did Elon pull out some more server racks he didn’t want to pay for?
Same old sexism, let the young men and poor men die… while women go on w life, leisure and opportunity.
Send them back, they got here on Iran’s blood money. They are representing Iran. Let them.
This government isn’t going to force anyone to leave. They’re more likely to give them free houses and welfare.
You’re being duped friend. On average new arrivals to Australia are less likely to commit crimes.
The reason I say you’re being duped, is that the rich and powerful want us fighting amongst ourselves, instead of noticing that they’re screwing us over.
The housing crisis is being caused by massive asset inflation, we have literally tens of thousands of empty homes, and houses WAYYYYY more expensive than what they’re actually worth.
Fuck Labor, fuck the LNP, but also fuck One Nation. They’re trying to dupe you into believing all the problems in our society are being caused by migration, which just is plainly not true.
Get mad at the real enemy friend. Let’s take back our country from the leeches at the top.
Join your union, join local community groups. The only way we take back power for the people is organising as a united working class against the leeches: the billionaires…
Where did I mention crime?
The housing crisis is caused by supply and demand. Importing over 1000 people a day while building no houses will do that.
You’re the one who is being duped by the looks of it, eating up all their excuses for why supply and demand isn’t the issue.
Billionaires are not the problem.
eating up all their excuses
Who’s excuses? You mean for immigration? I’m not for excessive, nor no immigration. I’m for a manageable number. Just that I think it’s wrong to say it’s the cause of the housing crisis.
Where did I mention crime?
From your child comment
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The housing crisis is caused by supply and demand. Importing over 1000 people a day while building no houses will do that.
That’s the thing, we’ve been building houses like crazy, and somewhat keeping up with demand, evidenced by the fact there are THOUSANDS EMPTY PROPERTIES. The price inflation no where near matches the utility of houses or demand if it were for living in only. People are expecting to make returns on the house. It’s been commodified and tax incentivised and thus prices have gone way up. You’re also ignoring the extremely obvious fact that the more people who are here, the more labour there is to produce houses. Having more or less people makes practically no difference to the rate we can build houses (all else being equal).
Funnily enough, Singapore is way, way more constrained with land for housing, but have an extremely strong public housing system, preventing most people from living in properties that have been made into investment vehicles.
Billionaires are not the problem.
Yes. Yes they are. They lobby for lower taxes (for them), avoid the taxes that already exist, making billions off the backs of other people’s labour (you can’t seriously suggest Gina Rhinehart has put in enough effort to warrant her billions). They own practically 80% of the politicians in parliament. And it’s hilarious (and very upsetting) how many people are believing the bullshit they’ve been feeding us since forever.
The only solution to the housing crisis is making house investment less profitable, and make them somewhere to live, not somewhere to make a profit.
Good luck making your billions mate. It’s DEFINITELY within most people’s reach… lol /s
Immigration didn’t cause the housing crisis, but it’s now the biggest thing making it worse every single day.
We aren’t building enough houses. There being thousands of empty houses is irrelevant because people own them. They’re not on the market. They were empty before the mass immigration started.
There being more people here doesn’t mean more labour to build houses, because we’re not importing builders or even people that are considered “skilled”. Something like 10% of all the immigrants coming here now are “skilled workers”, the rest are their families and students and unskilled workers.
So, let me get this straight. We have more housing per person than any time in the last 30 years, and you’re saying we’re not building enough houses?
How is more demand from more immigrants a problem, but low supply from people literally hoarding houses, a human need, not a problem?
It’s crazy how people, including you, don’t have a problem with people hoarding, and will let the elites convince you it’s foreigners.
Like???
People can buy whatever they want to. They’re under no obligation to rent a house out, nor are they not allowed to buy more houses.
We have a supply problem. We aren’t building enough houses. This is fact. We are importing over 7000 people per week, all of who need housing. Are we building 7000 new houses per week in the places these immigrants want to live - inner city? No.
We aren’t building enough houses. This is fact.
We have more houses per person, so it is not a fact. We do have a supply problem, because we’re not utilising our existing housing stock.
We do have a supply problem, but it’s wild you think it’s okay for wealthy people to screw the rest of us over. The supply problem is because houses are sitting empty, and tax incentives are such that profiting off of housing makes it an asset class people are pouring money into.
We could just decide tomorrow we’re going to keep housing prices nominally stable, make hoarding empty houses illegal (like, someone’s “freedom” to profit doesn’t trump the rest of our freedom of having somewhere affordable to live… we live in a society, not an anarcho-capitalist hellscape), and remove tax incentives that make housing such an attractive asset class.
We could be using these piles of money invested into unproductive assets (the house just sits there, the actual value from living there is far, far exceeded by the current price) and invest them in actual productive assets like companies and research.
Housing needs to be for people to live, not to profit.
We are building enough housing per person, that’s a fact, and I’ve given you the data to prove it. Yes, even with how many people were bringing in (which I agree, we ought not just aimlessly do).
But it’s plainly obvious that the reason housing is expensive is not because of the number of houses we have.
To be clear we have more housing per person than before, so the 7000 per week figure (also, is that net?), doesn’t really prove your point at all.
Also you missed the point of my screenshot there. It wasn’t about the crime, it was about the fact that that person wasn’t even deported.
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