• FreedomAdvocate
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    10 hours ago

    No he wasn’t.

    Maybe being deported without seeing a judge

    Did you not read my post?

    He was ordered to be deported back home to El Salvador, and then a second judge confirmed he was to be deported on appeal.

    He had already seen a judge TWICE in relation to being deported. Both times they ruled to deport him.

    Pretty fucking self explanatory.

    You’re gonna have to explain because no, it’s not. The 4 symbols were determined to mean MS13 (Marijuana, Smile, etc). It’s a giant coincidence if they just happened to spell out MS13 but aren’t MS13, especially given his history with MS13 gang members.

    So? Elon musk was in the us illegally, should he be sent to el Salvador?

    I’m pretty sure he was in the US legally on a visa and that whole “he was here illegally” thing has been debunked. If Musk was ruled by 2 judges to be MS13 and to be deported then yeah, he should be sent to el salvador. Even the el salvador president says that Garcia is MS13 for crying out loud.

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      9 hours ago

      Did you not read my post?

      Unfortunately I did.

      He was ordered to be deported back home to El Salvador, and then a second judge confirmed he was to be deported on appeal.

      And he didn’t see them.

      The 4 symbols were determined to mean MS13 (Marijuana, Smile, etc). It’s a giant coincidence if they just happened to spell out MS13 but aren’t MS13, especially given his history with MS13 gang members.

      It is a giant coincidence, because it actually means LDCB.

      I’m pretty sure he was in the US legally on a visa and that whole “he was here illegally” thing has been debunked. If Musk was ruled by 2 judges to be MS13 and to be deported then yeah, he should be sent to el salvador. Even the el salvador president says that Garcia is MS13 for crying out loud.

      Oh right, the “grey” are he said he was in, right completely debunked.

      Also if he actually had a chance to see judge before being black bagged, at least it would be a little fair. And what a stupid take, also taking the El Salvadoran presidents word for it is dumb

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        9 hours ago

        And he didn’t see them.

        He didn’t see what? That he was ordered to be deported? Yes he did - he actually showed up to those court dates back in 2019 lol.

        It is a giant coincidence, because it actually means LDCB.

        lol so first everyone says that they don’t mean anything, now they suddenly mean “LDCB”? Took you guys a few weeks to find something else you can try and claim they mean lol. Also google is turning up a blank for anything with garcia and LDCB.

        Also if he actually had a chance to see judge before being black bagged, at least it would be a little fair.

        What exactly do you think he needs to see ANOTHER judge for though?

        In the country illegally? Check Citizen of El Salvador and only El Salvador? Check Determined to be a MS13 gang member? Check

        What exactly do you think another court case would possibly do that the previous ones didn’t? Seriously - what “due process” do you think someone who was twice ordered to be deported and determined to be a gang member missed out on when he got deported?

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          9 hours ago

          He didn’t see what? That he was ordered to be deported? Yes he did - he actually showed up to those court dates back in 2019 lol.

          Uhuh and why is the administration calling his deportation an error?

          lol so first everyone says that they don’t mean anything, now they suddenly mean “LDCB”? Took you guys a few weeks to find something else you can try and claim they mean lol

          Welcome to the world of sarcasm.

          What exactly do you think he needs to see ANOTHER judge for though?

          I don’t know… due process?

          In the country illegally? Check

          How was his deportation an error then?

          Determined to be a MS13 gang member? Check

          Trumps insistence on the matter doesn’t make it true

          What exactly do you think another court case would possibly do that the previous ones didn’t? Seriously - what “due process” do you think someone who was twice ordered to be deported and determined to be a gang member missed out on when he got deported?

          Oh idk maybe because he deported in error?

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            9 hours ago

            Uhuh and why is the administration calling his deportation an error?

            They’re not - they’re saying that there was an administrative error on his paperwork. ie a typo, put something in the wrong box, etc. NOT that he shouldn’t have been deported.

            I don’t know… due process?

            WHAT DUE PROCESS? He was ordered by 2 separate judges to be deported. He was there at those court cases. What due process did he not get? What specifically do you think should happen if he is brought back to the US for “due process” to happen? For a third judge to rule yes he is MS13 and yes he should be deported, like the first 2?

            How was his deportation an error then?

            It wasn’t, as I said above.

            Trumps insistence on the matter doesn’t make it true

            Trump has nothing to do with it. Trump wasn’t the one that insisted he was an MS13 member. Trump wasn’t either one of the judges back in 2019 who determined that he was MS13.

            Oh idk maybe because he deported in error?

            He wasn’t.

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              They’re not - they’re saying that there was an administrative error on his paperwork. ie a typo, put something in the wrong box, etc. NOT that he shouldn’t have been deported.

              So, ordering him to come back is what? Nothing?

              Trump wasn’t the one that insisted he was an MS13 member

              Did you not see the interview? Lol

              He wasn’t

              He was

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                9 hours ago

                So, ordering him to come back is what? Nothing?

                The same people that ordered his deportation are not the same people ordering that they have to try and bring him back.

                Did you not see the interview? Lol

                Trump wasn’t the one that made the ruling that he was MS13. That was done by immigration and 2 separate judges 6 years ago, and then confirmed by the president of el salvador when he asked for him to be sent there. Trump was presenting the facts that he was ruled to be MS13 by 2 separate Judges and immigration.

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                  9 hours ago

                  The same people that ordered his deportation are not the same people ordering that they have to try and bring him back

                  why are they ordering him back?

                  Trump wasn’t the one that made the ruling that he was MS13. That was done by immigration and 2 separate judges 6 years ago, and then confirmed by the president of el salvador when he asked for him to be sent there.

                  And yet, that’s not what happened.

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                    9 hours ago

                    And yet, that’s not what happened.

                    It is though. What do you think happened?

                    why are they ordering him back?

                    Because they believe the stay of deportation overrides the illegal alien act that was used to deport him. That’s up for debate, and hopefully will go through the courts to get a final ruling - though on the face of it it seems like it doesn’t override it, so they were able to deport him.