• FreedomAdvocate
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    11 hours ago

    It requires a declaration of war. Only Congress can do that.

    It does not. As I suggested to the other person - Google it. It does not require a declaration of war:

    “The Alien Enemies Act of 1798 allows the U.S. President to detain or deport individuals from enemy nations during wartime or in response to threats against the U.S.

    Furthermore, people being legally deported under that act have protections

    Which of the protections you linked to do you think were not followed? Here they are from your own link:

    “When an alien who becomes liable as an enemy, in the manner prescribed in section 21 of this title, is not chargeable with actual hostility, or other crime against the public safety, he shall be allowed, for the recovery, disposal, and removal of his goods and effects, and for his departure, the full time which is or shall be stipulated by any treaty then in force between the United States and the hostile nation or government of which he is a native citizen, denizen, or subject; and where no such treaty exists, or is in force, the President may ascertain and declare such reasonable time as may be consistent with the public safety, and according to the dictates of humanity and national hospitality.”

    What treaty is in force between the United States and El Salvador? What does it state? If no such treaty exists, the President decides.

    So, this is all illegal, and you need to read up on things you no nothing about.

    The irony is just so, so delicious.

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      11 hours ago

      Can you read?

      The actual text, from the beginning:

      Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government

      Don’t come at me with opinions of meaning. I gave you the actual text.

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        11 hours ago

        What exactly do you think in the bit you highlighted proves you right?

        Can you read?

        I’m asking myself the same thing about you based on this conversation.

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          11 hours ago

          Let’s say that the trump admin is deporting gangs. Cool. Gangs are NOT NATIONS OR GOVERNMENTS.

          love how you ignored the protections and jurisdictions bit…

          Your still wrong.

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            10 hours ago

            Explain how your Mental gymnastics is twisting the literal text into something it’s not, and I’ll apologize. Give me a line by line of the actual text, not an interpretation. I came with facts. You’ve come with feelings.

            Your entire point is based on the fact that only congress can declare war, and the act can only be invoked during war.

            That point is 100% incorrect, as shown by your own links. Your own links say it can also be invoked during an invasion, and that an invasion can be declared by the President.

            I haven’t come with “feelings”, I’ve come with facts - fact that you have also provided but misunderstood.

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            11 hours ago

            Ugh “max comment depth”…response to your NEXT comment is here:

            Huh? I literally just responded to your comment:

            Gangs are NOT NATIONS OR GOVERNMENTS

            to point out that the act is allowed to be invoked when there is an invasion or predatory incursion coming from a foreign nation. I was pointing out where your point is wrong…and you then start talking about planes full of migrants?

            Love the choice of language too - “migrants” rather than what they all are, which is “illegal immigrants”. “without due process” has already been explained - the act that we’re talking about means that a different “due process” is now in play, one which they did follow.

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              11 hours ago

              You do realize I’m talking about the planes full of migrants deported without due process, not just one case, right?

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              11 hours ago

              Explain how your Mental gymnastics is twisting the literal text into something it’s not, and I’ll apologize. Give me a line by line of the actual text, not an interpretation. I came with facts. You’ve come with feelings.