The video I linked for reference

I guess I was “sympathizing with invaders” because I said “Such an absolute waste of life, just for the vanity of one man.”

Just patently ridiculous moderation…

  • harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I watched the video and it’s pretty objective, just being an analysis of the situation. It focuses on the numbers and strategies. No sympathy shown.

    I can see the moderator taking your statement about wasting lives as “sympathetic” because their view is probably along the lines of “all Russian soldiers are guilty and must be killed without mercy.”

    This sort of dehumanization is not acceptable as more and more of the Russian army is filled with people being taken advantage of or being sent at gunpoint.

    I’m not saying they’re all innocent bystanders. There’s still plenty who want to be there, for some reason or another, but, ultimately, every Russian soldier is a tool of the elites and they, no matter their citizenship, are the real enemy.

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      You can’t really expect Ukrainians to put their emotions aside when they’re being bombed on a regular basis, with routine reports of family members or friends dying to the attacks. As Zelenskyy has reasonably said, there might be a time in the future when Russians are no longer viewed the way they are, but now is not that time.

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          My comment is mainly about the ways grief and loss affect people’s thinking rather than how they resist, and to that extent, it doesn’t matter if it’s Ukrainians, Palestinians or any other people.

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            Not what I asked but okay. Also, your comment isn’t really about grief and loss, is it? You’re pretending your comment is about how the dehumanization is justified by Ukrainians, but you are dehumanizing Russians, and defending it. I saw your other comment, which is why I asked.

            People deep enough in propoganda to be speaking about Ukrainians this way don’t ever have the same compassion towards the Arab victims of an ongoing genocide, so I’m not very convinced.

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        Exactly. This “muh dehumanizing” argument is the default for anyone trying to start a flame war based on an actual war. IIRC the mods posted a zero tolerance explanation post due to the constant attempts to use bleeding hearts to mock those truly suffering in all this.

        Honestly I think DB0 is being disingenuous here. The modlog shows several reinstatements and corrections for past enforcements. I doubt they even attempted to explain or apologize and went straight for trying to discredit the community in here. They are less concerned with the feelings of true victims and more their butthurt ones and so: YDI.

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            Let’s see how ‘empathetic’ you are when bombs destroy your home and kill your friends and family. It isn’t even ‘showing empathy’. It’s feigning moral superiority while showing no empathy for the actual victims.

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                (he said while sipping his latte in his warm office at his powered computer completely unafraid of airplane noises outside).

                Nobody ‘wants’ more death. Some of us, however, are smart enough to understand that it is the price required to repel evil.

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                  Of course it’s the cost to repeal evil, you don’t stop Nazis with nice words. It’s a shame that Ukraine has to fight for its right to exist. The cost of defense should ideally have less of Ukraian lives than Russian. Especially since Russia started the mess they can’t win.

                  he said while sipping his latte in his warm office at his powered computer completely unafraid of airplane noises outside

                  I live next to an air force base, I hear them all the time. They are loud as shit and wake me every day. Let’s not pretend you’re also on the front lines either, no one on Lemmy is.