The video I linked for reference
I guess I was “sympathizing with invaders” because I said “Such an absolute waste of life, just for the vanity of one man.”
Just patently ridiculous moderation…
The video I linked for reference
I guess I was “sympathizing with invaders” because I said “Such an absolute waste of life, just for the vanity of one man.”
Just patently ridiculous moderation…
On the one hand, the post is consistent with the other posts seen in the community, like the daily summaries (e.g. here) or this post saying “Russian losses surge”. However, your comment was probably unnecessary and indeed contrary to the first rule (“🇺🇦 Sympathy for enemy combatants is prohibited.”). There are many in Russia who sign contracts as opposed to being conscripted, and even if they get conscripted, they can refuse to serve and do time in prison, which is still the lesser evil than killing others for absolutely no reason. Moreover, if it were merely Putin’s war, it wouldn’t fully explain the wide support for the invasion or the mass atrocities and war crimes committed by the so-called regular soldiers. We could go into why people commit crime and how it relates to poverty and other systemic issues stemming from hierarchies of power, but the Ukraine community is not the right place for that, as the Russian problems are a remote concern compared to those of the Ukrainian people attacked by Russia.
Edit: Fixed a typo.
Sorry but saying that Russians casualties are a waste of life is not sympathy. It’s humanity. This dehumanization people support is not healthy.
Edit : not to mention they could have asked me to edit instead of removing the whole post
next they’ll call you a tankie
They post on MoG, so I’m amazed they didn’t instantly start saying how db0 was being tankie by responding to them kindly.
i think not enough people understand there’s a difference between empathy and sympathy. i can look at the russian soldiers and have empathy for that they are poorly educated, exist in a constant media environment that tells them that they need to be scared of all Ukrainians, and that often they are poor and desperate and think they are doing what they need just to survive.
this does not mean i sympathize with them. it just means i’m trying to take the effort to understand how a fellow human could have turned out this wrong. i largely do so to make sure i don’t let the children around me become the next generation of uninformed, easily maniputed, violent masses it requires to carry out atrocity.
in case it isn’t clear to anyone reading this comment,
Very well stated.
Let’s reframe this entire argument from another perspective so you can maybe be a little objective:
Imagine if I posted an article/blog arguing something along the lines of ‘with the land war in Iran the Israeli military losses have spiked 20%.’ and concluded with “Such an absolute waste of life, just for the vanity of two men.", in r/Palestine. How much help do you think the “I’m just being careful not to dehumanize them” narrative would be? Do you think their mods would simply ask me to edit the comment?
Yes that would be the appropriate response from a mod then as well
Does Lemmy even allow community mods to remove a post, ask a question, then restore it, like on reddit? If so, yeah, I’d suggest they try that at times, but I’d view them not doing that in this scenario as an imperfection rather than a form of power abuse.
I mean, it’s not exactly a critical statement, yanno? Putting a distinguished comment and waiting a few hours before removing is also an option
I think that, and even the expectation for them to do more than to remove (and let you repost with corrections), rests on the notion of your comment not being in violation of the rules, which is obviously in dispute here.
Even with rule violations, there’s gradients. One can ask one to fix a mild rule violation in a nicer manner. I would know, I do it all the time.
If it were a less sensitive issue, from the backseat I’d probably agree that the 24 hour ban was excessive, as it left no room for reposting with corrections from what looked like an otherwise well-intentioned post. If you reposted without corrections or posted anything else that’s in violation of the rules, then I’d probably ban.