Year 2022 got me very disappointed. I live in Finland, but can still do something less than 2% of people here can do: I can speak passable Russian. And I’ve had to change my view on people from that country because of that.
Just go and ask her: “If that would end the war, should the Russia leave all of Ukraine’s territory, including Crimea?”
Her answer will be either “No, it should not” or “It’s complicated”. The “It’s complicated” then turns out in further conversation to be a form of “No.”
Even those who are “against” the war demand that the Russia must be allowed to have at least some sort of victory. If the Russia returns back where it came from, then these 12 years of war would have been in vain. And the people there do not want for it to have been in vain.
I have met Russian citizens who really are against the war. But those people now also absolutely refuse to speak Russian. No matter how bad their Finnish, or even just English, they will refuse to speak a word of Russian. Because, by their experience, their country is so thoroughly seeped in propaganda, and has been that way for centuries, that they cannot find a way to be against the war and still feel like Russians.
Those Russians who are really against the war are extremely rare, and they would not complain the way this person does. They would be fully aware of why all this is happening.
The person in the video was too young to vote when a vote could have made a change, but she is absolutely in support of the war continuing until the Russia gainst victory of some sort.
Before year 2022 I would have been againt this kind of view that I am expressing here, but I have had conversations with so many tens of Russians since then that the case is absolutely clear. There are people who have grown as Russians who are not genocidal, but their number is extremely low. And they consider it insulting calling them Russians. It’s something akin to calling someone with their deadname if you do.
The person in the video is in support of genociding Ukrainians. And she is in support of abducting Ukrainian children. Putin has incredibly thoroughly destroyed the nation in his country with the propaganda he started around 2003 or 2004 or so.
She wanted this shit, and she still wants it. She would just not want to have all the bad sides it comes with. She is against how the Russia is invading Ukraine, not against the Russia invading Ukraine. And does not want the Russia to retreat from there, so in the end the how is within limits of acceptable to her as well.
You’re associating the experiences of a few to the three people in the OP’s video who we have not been told the actual unredacted opinions on whether they should have their internet and banking access cut and if a physical war with Ukraine and Crimea is worth this.
A lot of folks do not make those connections are related, but you and I do. You and I are not the three people in video, and definitively not the sadistic OP.
I’m talking about the experiences of a couple hundred people I’ve talked about this war in the last 12 years. I’m a fucking talkative person :)
Like you say, those three do not make the connections. And that does tell a lot! And even if they now do, and even if they now are against the war, they were not against the war just a month ago. If they had been, they would not see any sense in complaining about this. Instead, they’d be loooong gone from the Russia.
At least from 2014 to February 2026, these three people have been supporting the war against Ukraine. They’ve wanted their nation to FA, now they are FO.
It is absolutely clear form the demeanor of these three that those experiences should be associated with these three. If they weren’t, these three would be speaking of some completely different subjects altogether. Plus, they would not be in the Russia.
There are non-genocidal Russians, but these three have still been pro-genocide at least a month ago. Let’s hope they’ve changed their position recently, but that doesn’t really excuse their earlier evils.
Year 2022 got me very disappointed. I live in Finland, but can still do something less than 2% of people here can do: I can speak passable Russian. And I’ve had to change my view on people from that country because of that.
Just go and ask her: “If that would end the war, should the Russia leave all of Ukraine’s territory, including Crimea?”
Her answer will be either “No, it should not” or “It’s complicated”. The “It’s complicated” then turns out in further conversation to be a form of “No.”
Even those who are “against” the war demand that the Russia must be allowed to have at least some sort of victory. If the Russia returns back where it came from, then these 12 years of war would have been in vain. And the people there do not want for it to have been in vain.
I have met Russian citizens who really are against the war. But those people now also absolutely refuse to speak Russian. No matter how bad their Finnish, or even just English, they will refuse to speak a word of Russian. Because, by their experience, their country is so thoroughly seeped in propaganda, and has been that way for centuries, that they cannot find a way to be against the war and still feel like Russians.
Those Russians who are really against the war are extremely rare, and they would not complain the way this person does. They would be fully aware of why all this is happening.
The person in the video was too young to vote when a vote could have made a change, but she is absolutely in support of the war continuing until the Russia gainst victory of some sort.
Before year 2022 I would have been againt this kind of view that I am expressing here, but I have had conversations with so many tens of Russians since then that the case is absolutely clear. There are people who have grown as Russians who are not genocidal, but their number is extremely low. And they consider it insulting calling them Russians. It’s something akin to calling someone with their deadname if you do.
The person in the video is in support of genociding Ukrainians. And she is in support of abducting Ukrainian children. Putin has incredibly thoroughly destroyed the nation in his country with the propaganda he started around 2003 or 2004 or so.
She wanted this shit, and she still wants it. She would just not want to have all the bad sides it comes with. She is against how the Russia is invading Ukraine, not against the Russia invading Ukraine. And does not want the Russia to retreat from there, so in the end the how is within limits of acceptable to her as well.
You’re associating the experiences of a few to the three people in the OP’s video who we have not been told the actual unredacted opinions on whether they should have their internet and banking access cut and if a physical war with Ukraine and Crimea is worth this.
A lot of folks do not make those connections are related, but you and I do. You and I are not the three people in video, and definitively not the sadistic OP.
Hence why I am calling OP on es cruelty.
I’m talking about the experiences of a couple hundred people I’ve talked about this war in the last 12 years. I’m a fucking talkative person :)
Like you say, those three do not make the connections. And that does tell a lot! And even if they now do, and even if they now are against the war, they were not against the war just a month ago. If they had been, they would not see any sense in complaining about this. Instead, they’d be loooong gone from the Russia.
At least from 2014 to February 2026, these three people have been supporting the war against Ukraine. They’ve wanted their nation to FA, now they are FO.
I am aware of your experiences. I am not discounting them. I am discounting OP’s harmlaugh without having done basic research.
If you will associate those experiences with these three, then I am afraid I have some Finish associations to make.🙃
It is absolutely clear form the demeanor of these three that those experiences should be associated with these three. If they weren’t, these three would be speaking of some completely different subjects altogether. Plus, they would not be in the Russia.
There are non-genocidal Russians, but these three have still been pro-genocide at least a month ago. Let’s hope they’ve changed their position recently, but that doesn’t really excuse their earlier evils.
I guess Finnish people can afford the luxuries living anywhere anytime full of contradictions all the time.
Enjoy Chat Control 3.0🙃
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