• OrteilGenou@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    That’s like saying that people denouncing violence should be quiet because their grandparents fought in WW2. This Pope can’t change the crusades or the Spanish inquisition, but he can make a difference now. I’m no fan of the Church, but I appreciate his words.

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      7 hours ago

      You can’t really compare the Vatican to WW2. But if you did, imagine if the axis powers still existed and got to keep most of their territories while telling their neighbours they just wanted peace but also promoting their generals and crimes as heroic and necessary.

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        6 hours ago

        imagine if the axis powers still existed and got to keep most of their territories

        This applies to all 3 major axis powers

        promoting their generals and crimes as heroic and necessary.

        This applies to Japan

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          6 hours ago

          None of the axis powers exists.

          This applies to Japan

          And they are widely criticised, like they should be.

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            3 hours ago

            None of the axis powers exists.

            By that metric neither does the pre Vatican II church before 1965

            And they are widely criticised, like they should be.

            I agree. But they absolutely exist and do the thing that you said nobody does.

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              2 hours ago

              Once again, you can’t really compare these two. Especially since all the modern countries that descend from the axis powers relinquished the territories they conquered and have often even payed compensations to their former victims.

              By that metric neither does the pre Vatican II church before 1965

              I am not to comment on that more than: that comparison doesn’t make sense.

              But they absolutely exist

              Not really.

              and do the thing that you said nobody does.

              What did I say nobody does?