Ok neolib

What part of fuck off are you having trouble understanding?

Thank God you came along to tell me what my experience was. Fuck off.

Shockingly, things that strangle the middle class are not good for the middle class or the country as a whole.

Also, it’s weird that you’re treating “4x the poverty level” as if it’s a decent living. The poverty level in 2014 was $11,000. So a person making slightly more than 4x that would be paying a quarter of their pre-tax income towards health insurance at $800/mo. You’re as out of touch with reality as Obama was.

I didn’t say it applied to everyone. I said it applied to me, a lower middle class person in his mid 20s. I said this in response to someone who claimed I was lying that my premiums doubled every year after Obamacare until they were $800 a month and I couldn’t afford them anymore. Sorry, your disingenuous cherry picking of my argument threw me off.

Also: fuck off neolib

I posted a link to the source earlier in this comment chain. If you want to see it, go find it. I’m not in the business of repeating myself for your benefit.

If it wasn’t for Obamacare the insurance companies would have to compete on rates, because there wouldn’t be a law that said everyone had to buy their product. They’d also be profiting off of more than the 20% of premiums that Obamacare set as the maximum so they’d have no reason to raise premiums by 91% in a single year.

Not paying an $800 a month bill that I couldn’t afford isnt something I would consider “my choice”. I had very little trouble paying for insurance before Obamacare.

stayed at a steady rate of increase after Obamacare.

91% in a year. If they’d been increasing at that rate before Obamacare they’d have been in the trillions of dollars per month range by 2014

“Dad, why did you bring me to a gay steel mill?” was a top 10 Simpsons moment

Found one example in the Wikipedia article about the buggery act of 1533, though it seems like he deserved it. I’m not clear if he was actually convicted.

In July 1540, Walter Hungerford, 1st Baron Hungerford of Heytesbury, was charged with treason for harbouring a known member of the Pilgrimage of Grace movement. He was also accused of buggery, as he was suspected of raping his own daughter. Hungerford was beheaded at Tower Hill,[6] on 28 July 1540, the same day as Thomas Cromwell.

That’s what I ended up doing, around 2014 when my premiums rose to $800 a month.

As a guy in his late 20s, my out of pocket expenses became 100% when premiums rose to the point that I couldn’t afford insurance anymore. Maybe Obamacare helped someone somewhere. It didn’t help the middle class. And the implication that it only increases costs for the rich is absurd.

I’ve always heard it as “queer”, and the definition of queer has morphed since then from simply “gay” to “someone whose gender is not easy to define”, or sometimes as an umbrella term for anyone covered by the other letters. The whole thing is rather confusing. I’m content to just treat them like any other people.

Yeah, same. It still feels as weird and wrong as the f word or the n word.

I’m talking about premiums, and so is the article I posted. Yours is about out of pocket expenses. I don’t care about out of pocket expenses when my premiums went from $180 a month to $800 a month in a 3 year period. This happened because Obamacare dictated that insurance companies could only profit from 20% of the premiums, so of course they responded by raising prices by the maximum allowed by law until 20% was equal to what they used to make before Obamacare. Any reasonable person should have seen that coming. Obamacare was a very stupid law.

Queer is a strange one for me, growing up it was a straight up offensive slur for gay people but now the LGBTQ community has embraced it hard enough to give it its own letter.

Buggery used to be a crime, now it’s a gay way to spend an afternoon

First of all, the price increases of healthcare were rising at exactly the same rate before and after Obamacare

Well that’s just straight up nonsense easily disproven by a simple Google search

“For 27-year-old men, the average county faced 91 percent increases; for 40-year-old men, 60 percent; for 64-year-old men, 32 percent.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/06/18/3137-county-analysis-obamacare-increased-2014-individual-market-premiums-by-average-of-49/

I didn’t even bother reading the rest of your reply. I don’t enjoy being lied to.

I will always get pissed at a government that pretends to be fixing a problem by forcing me to buy a product from a for-profit company.