I really wish you’d get off of your purity test high-horse.
From what I’ve read and seen, Platner is fully aware of and understands at a core level the mistakes and poor motivations he’s had in the past, and is trying to do something constructive that in part makes up for that. I’m not advocating for carte blanche forgiveness of people who have shit in their past, but it seems pretty clear that he’s sincerely trying to move his life and the impact he has on the world in the right direction.
If anyone else wants a longer-form nuanced article on Platner, give this a read. It is true that he has a problematic past - but he is clearly trying to move beyond that and learn from it. If you’re gonna make that an obstacle to electing people who want to help, when the fascists have no such compunctions whatsoever, you’re going to spurn a lot of allies that might be extremely effective for our cause.
And, as a side-note: post a link to an article, not just an image with a newspaper clipping and Blackwater ballcap. For all I or anyone else knows, you just AI slopped that shit together.
Whether or not this is a sincere turn-around, it’s too late. I think the best he can hope for is a quiet life of obscurity and small time good acts if he wants to fix his karma or whatever.
Why should we gamble on a former mercenary when there are options for leadership that didn’t have a “problematic past” ?
Stop being an American supremacist Nazi. This guy literally shows zero empathy for the people he murdered. All he cares about is how he got treated afterwards and how his taxpayer money was wasted. He believes anyone who isn’t American isn’t even human.
I’m… not dismissing the value of “foreigner” lives. In fact, that mindset is one of the biggest problems I have with American society. Where are you getting that from?
Yeah, uh, I’m very much not. I’m in fact seriously considering emigrating to the EU and figuring out how to slot my expert and career into helping the EU become less dependent on the US. I get that you’re having fun with hyperbole, but this is absolute, categorical nonsense. But by all means, check my post history.
This guy literally shows zero empathy for the people he murdered. All he cares about is how he got treated afterwards and how his taxpayer money was wasted. He believes anyone who isn’t American isn’t even human.
That’s… not my takeaway from the article, or other things I’ve seen from him, at all. Where are you getting this from?
Yeah, uh, I’m very much not. I’m in fact seriously considering emigrating to the EU and figuring out how to slot my expert and career into helping the EU become less dependent on the US.
You will not find a single Graham Platner article where he expresses any empathy for the people he murderded. I read the first 6 paragraphs of your trash article and threw the rest into an LLM and guess what
I don’t think we can have a constructive dialogue if you refuse to even read (and I do mean read, not throw content into an LLM for a summary) an article.
I’m not having a conversation with someone who’s too fucking lazy to read an article themselves. I refuse to debate with an LLM summary, which is what you’re trying to force me to do.
I feel like you missed the bit about “he’s done some shit in the past but he looks and sounds like he’s trying to make amends and move beyond his mistakes”. He’s not trying to hide his past - he’s addressed it head on.
I encourage you to read the article.
I’m not being an apologist here - I’m pointing out that purity testing someone who’s trying to atone for a negative past is counterproductive, particularly in this context.
I really wish you’d get off of your purity test high-horse.
From what I’ve read and seen, Platner is fully aware of and understands at a core level the mistakes and poor motivations he’s had in the past, and is trying to do something constructive that in part makes up for that. I’m not advocating for carte blanche forgiveness of people who have shit in their past, but it seems pretty clear that he’s sincerely trying to move his life and the impact he has on the world in the right direction.
If anyone else wants a longer-form nuanced article on Platner, give this a read. It is true that he has a problematic past - but he is clearly trying to move beyond that and learn from it. If you’re gonna make that an obstacle to electing people who want to help, when the fascists have no such compunctions whatsoever, you’re going to spurn a lot of allies that might be extremely effective for our cause.
And, as a side-note: post a link to an article, not just an image with a newspaper clipping and Blackwater ballcap. For all I or anyone else knows, you just AI slopped that shit together.
Whether or not this is a sincere turn-around, it’s too late. I think the best he can hope for is a quiet life of obscurity and small time good acts if he wants to fix his karma or whatever.
Why should we gamble on a former mercenary when there are options for leadership that didn’t have a “problematic past” ?
Stop being an American supremacist Nazi. This guy literally shows zero empathy for the people he murdered. All he cares about is how he got treated afterwards and how his taxpayer money was wasted. He believes anyone who isn’t American isn’t even human.
Do you live in Maine?
Do the Iraqis and Afghans he murdered live in Maine?
can a dog look up?
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Do you even hear yourself…?
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I’m… not dismissing the value of “foreigner” lives. In fact, that mindset is one of the biggest problems I have with American society. Where are you getting that from?
From your posts.
Yes only you can’t apparently.
Yeah, uh, I’m very much not. I’m in fact seriously considering emigrating to the EU and figuring out how to slot my expert and career into helping the EU become less dependent on the US. I get that you’re having fun with hyperbole, but this is absolute, categorical nonsense. But by all means, check my post history.
That’s… not my takeaway from the article, or other things I’ve seen from him, at all. Where are you getting this from?
🤣🤣🤣 Ok, (Western) European supremacist! 🤓
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You will not find a single Graham Platner article where he expresses any empathy for the people he murderded. I read the first 6 paragraphs of your trash article and threw the rest into an LLM and guess what
I don’t think we can have a constructive dialogue if you refuse to even read (and I do mean read, not throw content into an LLM for a summary) an article.
What a stupid deflection. Either prove this wrong or apologize.
I’m not having a conversation with someone who’s too fucking lazy to read an article themselves. I refuse to debate with an LLM summary, which is what you’re trying to force me to do.
Marjorie Taylor Green has more sincerity in her turnaround than this guy has since the entire Nazi tattoo coverup.
I feel like you missed the bit about “he’s done some shit in the past but he looks and sounds like he’s trying to make amends and move beyond his mistakes”. He’s not trying to hide his past - he’s addressed it head on.
I encourage you to read the article.
I’m not being an apologist here - I’m pointing out that purity testing someone who’s trying to atone for a negative past is counterproductive, particularly in this context.