Comment and thread in question: https://lemmy.world/comment/23138585

Ban from that community, memes@lemmy.ml:

Rule 1 of said community: Be civil and nice.

Rule 1 of said instance: No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.

I was clearly not bigoted in any manner, and I believe more civil than the way I was treated, was it the Code of Conduct? Excerpts:

Please be kind and courteous. There’s no need to be mean or rude.

Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every design or implementation choice carries a trade-off and numerous costs. There is seldom a right answer.

I think I was kind with the people I disagreed with, even if they could not be in return, yet those comments (some including ableist slurs) remain. I think this is enough to demonstrate it is merely a difference in ideology which motivated the ban. Well, bans, because it seems they copied and pasted the same ban in all the communities they have access to:

It’s not a general lemmy.ml ban, just those in particular.

I understand this kind of behavior in safe space communities that don’t want outsiders bellyaching about the pragmatism of electoral politics, but that’s not the case in any of the communities I’ve been banned from, nor is it a part of the instance rules or CoC.

PTB or triggered shitlib? Not an exclusive or, of course.

  • abbotsbury@lemmy.worldOP
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    15 hours ago

    You’re also tagged as being both instance and community banned in that community when viewed via browser.

    That cannot be true, the largest .ml community I can see, privacy@lemmy.ml, allows me to vote, post, and comment.

    your comments there amount to rage baiting for that instance

    I think that’s absurd, given the CoC. I mean, it’s clearly an “ought vs is” thing, I get that, but still a complete joke.

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      15 hours ago

      That cannot be true, the largest .ml community I can see, privacy@lemmy.ml, allows me to vote, post, and comment.

      Instance bans don’t actually stop you from posting. It just stops the posts and comments you make there from federating out. So if you have been instance banned, whatever you post on privacy@lemmy.ml would only be visible on lemmy.world.

      Only community bans function as hard-bans, and an instance ban currently only hard bans you from communities on an instance you have posted to.

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      Re: absurdity. That’s why a lot of people block the whole instance. It is absurd tbh. Yeah, it’s their instance, they can do what they want, but there’s a line between making a curated and ism specific space and being zealots. They don’t just cross the line, they often stomp on it and attempt to obliterate it.

      Someone else already covered the fact that a ban doesn’t prevent all interactions, but you can visit the instance via browser and navigate to your comments. You’ll see two tags, one that says banned, the other saying something like community banned or something like that. If you’re only banned from a community, and not the instance, there’s not going to be both (afaik, but I do know that’s the explanation I’ve seen given in the past). So I wasn’t pulling it out of my ass.