Comment and thread in question: https://lemmy.world/comment/23138585

Ban from that community, memes@lemmy.ml:

Rule 1 of said community: Be civil and nice.

Rule 1 of said instance: No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia. Code of Conduct.

I was clearly not bigoted in any manner, and I believe more civil than the way I was treated, was it the Code of Conduct? Excerpts:

Please be kind and courteous. There’s no need to be mean or rude.

Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every design or implementation choice carries a trade-off and numerous costs. There is seldom a right answer.

I think I was kind with the people I disagreed with, even if they could not be in return, yet those comments (some including ableist slurs) remain. I think this is enough to demonstrate it is merely a difference in ideology which motivated the ban. Well, bans, because it seems they copied and pasted the same ban in all the communities they have access to:

It’s not a general lemmy.ml ban, just those in particular.

I understand this kind of behavior in safe space communities that don’t want outsiders bellyaching about the pragmatism of electoral politics, but that’s not the case in any of the communities I’ve been banned from, nor is it a part of the instance rules or CoC.

PTB or triggered shitlib? Not an exclusive or, of course.

  • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
    147·
    15 hours ago

    Them being the best fascists is some kind of apologia.

    And no. It’s not the trolly problem and framing it as such is why shitlibs like you threw two elections to Trump. If your framing and understanding of electoralism was right you would be catching W’s instead of strays.

    choosing to not pull the lever is still making a choice in the system.

    So there are 3 options right? Not the trolly problem then.

    Something you need to get through your head is that how you think elections work is utterly fucking irrelevant to deciding the best strategies to win them from the campaigns perspective. All that matters is how voters en masse (not as individuals) behave.

    Framing elections (wrongly) as set of individual choices as the harm reduction narrative goes is like using a model which describes how an snowflake grows to decide what happens during an avalanche. A person is smart enough to use a turn style when given the space and time to do so. People moving together behave more like a fluid and has resulted in human crushes.

    Take the trolly problem and strategic voting, and throw them in the fucking trash for the worthless memes they are.

    • abbotsbury@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      611·
      15 hours ago

      Them being the best fascists is some kind of apologia.

      What does apologia mean, to you?

      It’s not the trolly problem and framing it as such is why shitlibs like you threw two elections to Trump

      Strawman, you don’t know who I voted for in primaries.

      So there are 3 options right? Not the trolly problem then.

      No, there’s two options, Red and Blue. Not pulling the lever is allowing Red or Blue to happen.

      Something you need to get through your head is that how you think elections work is utterly fucking irrelevant

      It’s pretty relevant, only Democrats and Republicans win general elections.

      Framing elections (wrongly) as set of individual choices as the harm reduction narrative goes is like using a model which describes how an snowflake grows to decide what happens during an avalanche. A person is smart enough to use a turn style when given the space and time to do so. People moving together behave more like a fluid and has resulted in human crushes.

      Take the trolly problem and strategic voting, and throw them in the fucking trash for the worthless memes they are.

      That doesn’t change reality of outcomes.