• MBech@feddit.dk
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    5 hours ago

    Depends on the freedom.

    • American freedom to use and abuse anyone under you in the capitalist hierarchy. Bad.
    • Freedom to get cared for at any hospital of your own choosing without having to sell your kidney? Not bad.
    • Freedom to masturbate to incest porn? Not bad. (Looking at you UK)
    • Freedom to kill people as long as you’re operating a multiple ton heavy vehicle with practically 0 consequenses. Bad.
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      In this instance we’re talking about the freedom to be a sexual or racial minority. Orban was notoriously against that, much like Putin and Trump. The narrative usually is that liberal policies (allowing LGBT and minorities to exist peacefully) result in LGBT and minorities taking over every aspect of life, so the average person will be forced to be gay or trans and their daughters will have to take black husbands or whatever.

      In Eastern European politics, liberal doesn’t mean economic liberal generally, at least not for the last decade or so. It literally means not being a hateful bigot.

      Which is why I’m finding it funny that there’s a tankie (not you, Tolc) going on in this thread about how all forms of liberalism are bad.

      • Riverside@reddthat.com
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        27 minutes ago

        In this instance we’re talking about the freedom to be a sexual or racial minority. Orban was notoriously against that, much like Putin

        You could say this about almost any Eastern Europe government. Also, this Hungarian party doesn’t precisely advertise itself as super LGBTQ friendly, they advertise themselves as apolitical centrists, which tends to maintain status quo. I’d gladly be proven wrong, though!